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Re: Missing - James Summers born Northumberland 1887/1889? in NZ by 1913??
« Reply #27 on: Monday 27 July 20 17:47 BST (UK) »
SCOTT, JAMES  BREWIS     
Mother's Maiden Surname:
GRO Reference: 1887  D Quarter in CASTLE WARD  Volume 10B  Page 281

The only odd thing is that in 1901 his birthplace was said to be Glororum, which was in Belford RD  :-\ (a good way to the north) and in 1891 it was Bothall which was in Morpeth RD  :-\
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Re: Missing - James Summers born Northumberland 1887/1889? in NZ by 1913??
« Reply #28 on: Monday 27 July 20 17:53 BST (UK) »
Never thought to look on the outward! Well done William.

Jen, I have been poring over Google maps trying to make sense of these places, couldn't even find the 1891 one!

So are James Bruce Summers and James Brewis Scott the same person? :-\
Don't ask me!
Date of birth of James Summers given on army attestation is 28 August 1887.
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Re: Missing - James Summers born Northumberland 1887/1889? in NZ by 1913??
« Reply #29 on: Monday 27 July 20 18:03 BST (UK) »
Bothal https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/NBL/Bothal (close to where the Scott family were living in 1891)

Bamburgh (Glororum) https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/NBL/Bamburgh

They are a long way apart! And neither in Castle Ward  :-\

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Re: Missing - James Summers born Northumberland 1887/1889? in NZ by 1913??
« Reply #30 on: Monday 27 July 20 18:17 BST (UK) »
The outer places of Castle Ward may not be impossibly far away. The B initial for James from the census is hopeful! We could certainly do with something more, a baptism, or a school record, anything at all really!
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Re: Missing - James Summers born Northumberland 1887/1889? in NZ by 1913??
« Reply #31 on: Monday 27 July 20 19:01 BST (UK) »
Only in Northumberland could there be TWO places called Glororum  ;D

I've just found the other one (actually it's just a farm and associated cottages) and it was in Castle Ward.
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Re: Missing - James Summers born Northumberland 1887/1889? in NZ by 1913??
« Reply #32 on: Monday 27 July 20 19:17 BST (UK) »
Well done Jen.
And only you could have found it!

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Re: Missing - James Summers born Northumberland 1887/1889? in NZ by 1913??
« Reply #33 on: Monday 27 July 20 19:57 BST (UK) »
Flatterer  ;D

If it was me I’d be risking buying that birth certificate   :-\
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Re: Missing - James Summers born Northumberland 1887/1889? in NZ by 1913??
« Reply #34 on: Monday 27 July 20 23:27 BST (UK) »
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-992F-L6VF?i=473&cc=1865481

Probate file for James SCOTT, died 11 November 1918 Wellington

Statement by Emma SCOTT, widow -

James SCOTT was my natural and lawful son.
Lawful widow Elizabeth SCOTT but no children.
This is only marriage for this James SCOTT.
Elizabeth SCOTT at Porirua Mental Hospital, unable to administer a Will.
My intention to apply for Letters of Administration.
Deceased was born Cuambuis , Northumberland, England.

I was born Rothbury, Northumberland, England.....
I was married only once.
My deceased husband, James SCOTT, born Lilleburn, Northumberland.

(Cuambuis , Northumberland....I think this might be Columbus, Northumberland?)

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Re: Missing - James Summers born Northumberland 1887/1889? in NZ by 1913??
« Reply #35 on: Tuesday 28 July 20 00:01 BST (UK) »


Probate file for Emma SCOTT, died 6 Sep 1927, Will written 13 Jan 1919

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Son-in-law Sydney SMITH, bricklayer, Executor.
Estate divided between Sydney SMITH, and grandson William SCOTT, now NZEF, formerly storeman at Whitcombe and Tombs, Wellington.