George BERTRAM born 1912 Paddington, London.

[ValJJJ]

I'm looking for any info on this boy, since I only have his birth registration in Q4 Paddington.

I have plenty on his mother Maud (actually Alice Maud Mary) Bertram nee Crook, and some on his father, German national Reinhold Bertram, but not a sniff of George.  The only likely deaths on FreeBMD are these, but these dates aren't in the GRO index to check the initials, which might be a clue to whether he is the right George.  There is no middle name for the birth registration though. The other possibility is that his death isn't showing up in the online indexes - omitted or mistranscribed because the surname Bartram is quite common.  I don't think Bertram is Germanic-sounding enough for him to change his surname due to WW2.

Jun 1963
BERTRAM    GEORGE M    51    SOUTHWARK    5D   463    
Sep 1968 
BERTRAM    GEORGE H    55    SALFORD    10F   495   

His parents married in Oct 1911 in Paddington and his father interned during WW1.  From 1918 his mother appeared on electoral rolls, meaning his father was naturalized (but no record of that, and he didn't appear in the electoral rolls from this date) or they separated/divorced.  The latter is looking likely as having just obtained his birth record from Germany, there are a couple of notes added later - one about a second marriage in Hamburg in 1942 and death in 1953 in Hamburg, so I'm following those up.  However Maud is noted as a widow on her death in 1931 so perhaps they never divorced, or she didn't own up to it.  In her will, she did not bequeath anything to George, so they might have been estranged.

There are various threads relating to Maud and Reinhold, but I don't think there's much to go on re George.  One thought is that if Reinhold returned to Germany, he took George with him?

Maud Bertram lived in Lanark Villas, Paddington, Hetley Rd, Shepherds Bush, then Cambridge Terrace, then Gloucester Terrace - both in Paddington.

I've put the threads here for background for the parents.
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=833172.msg6984612#msg6984612
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=834832.msg7001218#msg7001218

Thanks for reading.

Val

[JenB]

Have you looked at the 1939 register?

There is a George Bertram with a birthdate that falls in the quarter of 1912 that you mention.
He is living in Northumberland.

[ValJJJ]

No I hadn't got as far as the 1939 one.  There do seem to be a few George Bertrams and Bertrams in Nbland when I search on Ancestry, and so far I've been focussing on London results.  Time to spread the net.

[JenB]

There is only one George Bertram on free BMd born 4th q 1912 and only one to be found on the 1939 register.

If this is your man you can easily find his marriage and also his death and that of his wife, both in Northumberland.

[ValJJJ]

I've just had a look at the 1939 register, as currently I can use the library sub at home.  Yey, much easier.

As you say, I can trace him and will have a go.  Interestingly, Ancestry often comes up with a box of suggested records for names, but there's nothing for either him or his wife.  Perhaps this feature doesn't operate alongside the 1939 register.

Thanks.

[ValJJJ]

This marriage was in 1935 Q2 in Morpeth.  Marion B Collins and George Bertram. 

So will dig deeper now. 

[JenB]

There is the death of a George Bertram in Northumberland in 1978. His date of birth is 13th November 1912.

Probate index shows he was resident at Grangelea, Widdrington Station.

Compare with the 1939 entry   

[JenB]

However....his marriage gives father’s name as George 
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QLLJ-VPFG

[ValJJJ]

Oh well, nice try. Shame.

I haven't got any obvious links with Nbland for George or any of his family either.   I wonder if he went to Germany?  He would have been a German national I think, with having a German father.