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1881/1891 Census Look-Up, Please
« on: Friday 07 August 20 22:51 BST (UK) »
Good evening

I am trying to track down Charles Brotherton born 1837 Bolton-Le-Moors, Lancashire. I have found two marriages in Scotland but don't know if either are mine. One marriage is to Felicia Bains and the other Margaret McCormack. One fits the correct age group below.

References I have are:

1881      622/1 9/ 4    Maryhill Lanark

1891      622/1 12/ 56  Maryhill  Lanark

Any help would be appreciated.

Thank you.

Kind regards
Amanda
Salkeld - Alston, Grassington, Earby, Burnley
Brotherton - Burnley, Barnoldswick
Layfield - Burnley
Child - Bradford
Payne - Poulton Le Fylde, Burnley, Brierfield
Harris - Castle Bytham, Nelson, Barrowford
Sage - Boxted, Langham, West Riding, Lancashire
Hastie - Lanarkshire
Gillon - Lanarkshire

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Re: 1881 Census Look-Up, Please
« Reply #1 on: Friday 07 August 20 22:59 BST (UK) »
1881 census, 57 Gairbraid St, Maryhill.

Charles Brotherton, aged 40, inda rubber worker, born England.
Felicia, wife, aged 38, born Denny, Stirlingshire.
Agnes, aged 11 years, daughter, born Campsie, Stirlingshire.
William, aged 5 years, son, born Glasgow.
Joan, aged 4 years, daughter, born Glasgow.

Paterson, Torrance, Gilchrist - Hamilton Lanarkshire. 
McCallum - Oban, McKechnie - Ross of Mull Argyll.
Scrim - Perthshire. 
Liddell - Polmont,
Binnie - Muiravonside Stirlingshire.
Curran, McCafferty, Stevenson, McCue - Co Donegal
Gibbons, Weldon - Co Mayo.
Devlin - Co Tyrone.
Leonard - County Donegal & Glasgow.

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Re: 1881/1891 Census Look-Up, Please
« Reply #2 on: Friday 07 August 20 23:02 BST (UK) »
Also in the 1881 census there is a Charles Brotherton aged 17 years, born Campsie, occupation scholar gardener, he is at the Reformatory and House of Refuge for Boys in Duke Street, Glasgow.
Paterson, Torrance, Gilchrist - Hamilton Lanarkshire. 
McCallum - Oban, McKechnie - Ross of Mull Argyll.
Scrim - Perthshire. 
Liddell - Polmont,
Binnie - Muiravonside Stirlingshire.
Curran, McCafferty, Stevenson, McCue - Co Donegal
Gibbons, Weldon - Co Mayo.
Devlin - Co Tyrone.
Leonard - County Donegal & Glasgow.

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« Reply #3 on: Friday 07 August 20 23:07 BST (UK) »
1901 census for Dalziel parish, town of Motherwell.
Charles Brotherton, aged 55 years, born England.
Carrie Brotherton, wife, aged 53, born England.

He is a blacksmith, so it doesn't seem to be the same guy as in the 1881 Maryhill census.
Paterson, Torrance, Gilchrist - Hamilton Lanarkshire. 
McCallum - Oban, McKechnie - Ross of Mull Argyll.
Scrim - Perthshire. 
Liddell - Polmont,
Binnie - Muiravonside Stirlingshire.
Curran, McCafferty, Stevenson, McCue - Co Donegal
Gibbons, Weldon - Co Mayo.
Devlin - Co Tyrone.
Leonard - County Donegal & Glasgow.

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Re: 1881/1891 Census Look-Up, Please
« Reply #4 on: Friday 07 August 20 23:15 BST (UK) »
It looks like Charles was married twice, this is the same man as in the 1881 census, check the youngest child in this census and compare with Agnes in the 1881.

1871 census 83 Whitelaw Street.
Charles, head, aged 32, born England.
Margaret, wife, aged 34, born Ireland.
Margaret, daughter, aged 13, born ??????? Lanarkshire.
Mary Ann, daughter, aged 10, born Campsie.
Charles, son, aged 7, born Campsie.
Jeanie, daughter, aged 4, born Campsie.
Agnes, daughter, aged 1 year, born Campsie.
Agnes McCormack, mother-in-law, aged 65, born Ireland.


It looks like Margaret aged 13 years was born in Dalkeith, which is near Edinburgh (not in Lanarkshire) according to Scotlandspeople her middle name seems to be Paterson.
Paterson, Torrance, Gilchrist - Hamilton Lanarkshire. 
McCallum - Oban, McKechnie - Ross of Mull Argyll.
Scrim - Perthshire. 
Liddell - Polmont,
Binnie - Muiravonside Stirlingshire.
Curran, McCafferty, Stevenson, McCue - Co Donegal
Gibbons, Weldon - Co Mayo.
Devlin - Co Tyrone.
Leonard - County Donegal & Glasgow.

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Re: 1881/1891 Census Look-Up, Please
« Reply #5 on: Friday 07 August 20 23:26 BST (UK) »
There is a death recorded in the district of Maryhill in 1872 for Margaret Brotherton/McCormack.

Interestingly, there is also a death for a Margaret Brotherton, aged 44, in the district of Milton for 1874.
Paterson, Torrance, Gilchrist - Hamilton Lanarkshire. 
McCallum - Oban, McKechnie - Ross of Mull Argyll.
Scrim - Perthshire. 
Liddell - Polmont,
Binnie - Muiravonside Stirlingshire.
Curran, McCafferty, Stevenson, McCue - Co Donegal
Gibbons, Weldon - Co Mayo.
Devlin - Co Tyrone.
Leonard - County Donegal & Glasgow.

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Re: 1881/1891 Census Look-Up, Please
« Reply #6 on: Friday 07 August 20 23:37 BST (UK) »
Here's another one!
There is a Charles Brotherton aged 43 in the 1851 census for Blantyre parish.
He is listed as being a butler at "Whistleberry Toad Craighurd House".
This is Ancestry speak for "Craighead House, Whistleberry Road".
It say he was born at "Humbs" in Haddingtonshire but there is, I am certain, no such place! Dalkeith would have been in Haddingtonshire, which is now East Lothian, so there must be, I think, a connection. Could this be the father of your Charles?
I can remember Craighead House, a rather grand mansion, it became a monastery but was demolished a few years ago.
Paterson, Torrance, Gilchrist - Hamilton Lanarkshire. 
McCallum - Oban, McKechnie - Ross of Mull Argyll.
Scrim - Perthshire. 
Liddell - Polmont,
Binnie - Muiravonside Stirlingshire.
Curran, McCafferty, Stevenson, McCue - Co Donegal
Gibbons, Weldon - Co Mayo.
Devlin - Co Tyrone.
Leonard - County Donegal & Glasgow.

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Re: 1881/1891 Census Look-Up, Please
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 08 August 20 03:08 BST (UK) »
Quote from: Lodger on Friday 07 August 20 23:15 BST (UK)
It looks like Charles was married twice, this is the same man as in the 1881 census, check the youngest child in this census and compare with Agnes in the 1881.

1871 census 83 Whitelaw Street.
Charles, head, aged 32, born England.
Margaret, wife, aged 34, born Ireland.
Margaret, daughter, aged 13, born ??????? Lanarkshire.
Mary Ann, daughter, aged 10, born Campsie.
Charles, son, aged 7, born Campsie.
Jeanie, daughter, aged 4, born Campsie.
Agnes, daughter, aged 1 year, born Campsie.
Agnes McCormack, mother-in-law, aged 65, born Ireland.


It looks like Margaret aged 13 years was born in Dalkeith, which is near Edinburgh (not in Lanarkshire) according to Scotlandspeople her middle name seems to be Paterson.

Thank you for all of this info. Certainly a lot to work with. A pity the place of birth has no more detail than born in England. I'll need to check all births to see if any correspond with this Charles to figure out whether he's mine or not. Being born in 1837 may be tricky though.

Thanks gain  ;D

Kind regards
Amanda
Salkeld - Alston, Grassington, Earby, Burnley
Brotherton - Burnley, Barnoldswick
Layfield - Burnley
Child - Bradford
Payne - Poulton Le Fylde, Burnley, Brierfield
Harris - Castle Bytham, Nelson, Barrowford
Sage - Boxted, Langham, West Riding, Lancashire
Hastie - Lanarkshire
Gillon - Lanarkshire

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Re: 1881/1891 Census Look-Up, Please
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 08 August 20 03:20 BST (UK) »
Quote from: Lodger on Friday 07 August 20 23:37 BST (UK)
Here's another one!
There is a Charles Brotherton aged 43 in the 1851 census for Blantyre parish.
He is listed as being a butler at "Whistleberry Toad Craighurd House".
This is Ancestry speak for "Craighead House, Whistleberry Road".
It say he was born at "Humbs" in Haddingtonshire but there is, I am certain, no such place! Dalkeith would have been in Haddingtonshire, which is now East Lothian, so there must be, I think, a connection. Could this be the father of your Charles?
I can remember Craighead House, a rather grand mansion, it became a monastery but was demolished a few years ago.

Hi

The father of the Charles I am looking for is Reuben Brotherton. The last trace I have of Charles is in 1861 as an unmarried grocer in Manchester. It looks as though my search will continue. There was another Charles born in 1839 that may tie in with the above. I was hopeful one of these could be my Charles because I am pretty sure there was a Reuben born to Charles and Margaret but that was 1859 when Charles was still in Manchester.

Thanks again
Salkeld - Alston, Grassington, Earby, Burnley
Brotherton - Burnley, Barnoldswick
Layfield - Burnley
Child - Bradford
Payne - Poulton Le Fylde, Burnley, Brierfield
Harris - Castle Bytham, Nelson, Barrowford
Sage - Boxted, Langham, West Riding, Lancashire
Hastie - Lanarkshire
Gillon - Lanarkshire
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