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Re: Help please! Ancestor who doesn't seem to have been born!
« Reply #99 on: Wednesday 12 August 20 22:06 BST (UK) »
Yes, well found heywood.
Also in the Leicester Chronicle, 24 Dec 1853

A mention in the "Kerry Examiner and Munster General Observer", 6 Dec 1853. Page 3
He may have still been alive then!
something like
"The Collection accompanied by talented Brass Band—Leader, Mr. Thomas Horton. R.A"

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« Reply #100 on: Wednesday 12 August 20 22:07 BST (UK) »
for info. - (reply 23 and brought forward reply 85)

re: 1866  marriage Eliza Horton - mention of the marriage

Leicester Mail 15 September 1866

On the 6th inst; at St Margaret’s by the Rev. T Jones, Mr G Corrall, Grosvenor Street, to Eliza second daughter of Thomas Horton, of this town.
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« Reply #101 on: Wednesday 12 August 20 22:09 BST (UK) »
Also a few times in the Munster News in Nov 1853, poss are adverts
Academy is enlivened by a splendid Band —Leader, Thomas Horton R. A.

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Re: Help please! Ancestor who doesn't seem to have been born!
« Reply #102 on: Wednesday 12 August 20 22:30 BST (UK) »
Thanks.
I am trying to get an idea re death year.

I haven’t seen any newspaper snippets after December 1853.

Child Thomas  was born 1852 and died 1854.

You would think there would be a death announcement.
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« Reply #103 on: Wednesday 12 August 20 22:36 BST (UK) »
I am trying to get an idea re death year.

You have found it! In December 1853
They were death announcements.
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« Reply #104 on: Wednesday 12 August 20 22:45 BST (UK) »
Well - thanks Jon. I didn’t expect that.

I was then hoping a local announcement which mentioned Alfred. The death is too early for Irish civil registration.
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« Reply #105 on: Wednesday 12 August 20 22:52 BST (UK) »
Be nice if a burial could be found. That may be a tall order if it was in Ireland!
So much has now been found, well done, especially to yourself, heywood, and the amazing ladyhawk.
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« Reply #106 on: Wednesday 12 August 20 23:14 BST (UK) »
 Thank you Jon.

But - who is Alfred? That’s the real search.


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« Reply #107 on: Wednesday 12 August 20 23:25 BST (UK) »

There is also an unrelated report re Glasgow, August 1853 about a ‘mischievous urchin’ thrusting a needle into the nose of a lion. (Presumably not called Albert) Hylton’s menagerie.

Messrs Hylton & Manders Menagerie was touring Ireland autumn-winter 1853 under the proprietorship of Joseph Hylton. It visited Galway, October. Claimed to be the largest collection of wild beasts ever exhibited in Ireland. 1854 tour of Ireland was as Manders Royal Menagerie, proprietor William Manders. (Reported in various Irish newspapers)
A tiger escaped from a cage in while Hylton's Menagerie was travelling to Limekiln in March 1852 and killed a horse. Limekiln was a village somewhere near Edinburgh. The menagerie had been at the Grassmarket, Edinburgh for a few weeks. (Reported in various papers) A wolf escaped from Wombwell's menagerie when it was touring Wales in April that year and killed some sheep. (Various papers). Wombwell's "Lion Queen" had been killed by one of her charges a few years earlier. (1847?)
If the stint at Grassmarket was an annual fixture, it would account for the Edinburgh marriage.
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