Welch, Sarah c1820 Lichfield

[Mabel Bagshawe]

That probate for Caroline Rosina is definitely yours - if you look for her daughter Gwendoline in 1939 you'll find her at the same address as given for Caroline on her probate, and the street name is the same as on Caroline's burial

Still struggling with Charles Seymour (my point being he;s not the Kensington death as that appears to be Charles Samuel). I note their son Arthur emigrated to the USA so I wondered if he may have died on a visit ?

[Ratty2]

Thanks Mabel for your help.

That's clearly Emily and Frederick at Croydon, so very much appreciated.

Re marriage in Merthyr, Emily was sister to Florence who had married the vicar of Merthyr, Rev’d John Gower-Jones. I get the impression the sisters were quite close - not by distance but my friendship. Emily's other and older sister, Fanny Louisa Pitt Withers had married William John Cornwill the photographer of Teddington. Close enough to keep in touch anyway.

Cheers

[Ratty2]

I've been off on medical appointments and been checking the information. Here's what you have kindly found for me, plus my own research.

Re: Children of Sarah Welch

William Edward Withers. Baptism Register: Baptism Register: St Martin in the Bull Ring, Brmingham P700; Birmingham Archives & Heritage, 1839-1844, DRO 34/18 (FindMyPast). Marriage Registration: Aston, Warwickshire, 1867 TBV Vol 6d p321; Anne Elizabeth Whitfield William Edward Withers (Ancestry.com). Death Registration: West Bromwich, Staffordshire, 2nd Qtr 1839, Vol 6b P764 (Ancestry.com).

Clara Harriet Withers. Birth Registraion: Aston Union, 1st Qtr 1841, Vol 16  Page 173 (GRO). Baptism Register: St Martin, Birmingham, Warwickshire, 4 May 1843 (FindMyPast). Marriage Registration: West Bromwich, 3 Qtr 1865, Vol 6B P797 (FindMyPast). Death Registration for Clara Shorten not found.

Amelia Withers. Birth Registration: Aston, Warwickshire, 2nd Qtr 1843, Page 180, Vol 16 Line 4, (Ancestry). Baptism Register; St Martin, Birmingham 4 May 1943 (Ancestry). Marriage Registration: West Bromwich, March 1868 Vol 6b P697 (FindMyPast). Birmingham Daily Post, Wednesday 15 March 1882, p8; (British Newspaper Archive). Death Registration: Birmingham South, Warwickshire, 3rd Qtr 1928 Vol 6D P7 (Ancestry).

Samuel Francis Withers. Birth Registration: West Bromwich, 1st Qtr 1845, Vol 16 Page 321 (Ancestry). Marriage Registration: King’s Norton, 4th Qtr 1873 Vol 6c Page 881 (Ancestry). Death Registration: Bromsgrove, 1st Qtr 1910 Vol 6c p227 (Ancestry).

Sarah Elizabeth Withers. Birth Registration: Birmingham, 4th Qtr 1846 Vol 16 P303 (FindMyPast) Marriage Registration: West Bromwich, Staffordshire, 1st Qtr 1868 Vol 6b p697 (Ancestry). Kelly’s Directory of Birmingham 1872 ‘Builder’ (Ancestry). Aris’s Birmingham Gazette, 11 January 1868 (FindMyPast). 1881 Census, RG11, Piece 3017, Folio 11, Page 13, (Ancestry).
Edwin Frederick Withers. Birth Registration: Aston Union, 3rd Qtr 1848 Vol 16 p182 (GRO). Death Registration: Aston, Page 124 Volume 16 Line 161, 4th Qtr 1848 (Family Search). Burial; Key Hill cemetery, 1848 WITHERS Edwin Frederick, 6402 Graves E 58.

Fanny Louisa Withers. Birth Registration: 4th Qtr 1849, Aston Union, Vol 16 P170 Line 80 (FamilySearch). Marriage Registration: Hanover Square, 4th Qtr 1880 Vol 1a p754 Line 119 (Family Search). 1891 & 1911 Census RG14 Middlesex, Kingston 40, Enumeration 14, Piece 3574 Schedule 236 (Ancestry) 4 Walpole Place Teddington. Death Registration: Paddington, 2nd Qtr 1944 Vol 1a p353 (Ancestry). Her Probate was at Birmingham dated 28 Mar 1945, National Index of Wills and Administrations, 1858-1957, (FamilySearch).

Augustus Henry Withers. Birth Registration: Aston, 3rd Qtr 1851, Vol 16 P230. Birmingham Daily Post, Saturday 14 September 1889, p5. (British Newspaper Archive). Marriage Registration: Birmingham 1st Qtr 1876 Page 220 Volume 6D Line 45 (Family Search). Death Registration: West Bromwich 3rd Qtr 1908 Page 398 Volume 6B Line 363 (Family Search).

Caroline Rosina Withers. Birth Registration: Aston, 1st Qtr 1853 Vol 6d P271 Line 40 (Ancestry). Marriage Registration: West Bromwich, 1882 4th Qtr Vol 6b p1234 (Ancestry). Death date, 13 Apr 1946, from England and Wales, National Index of Wills and Administrations, 1858-1957, citing Probate, Birmingham, Warwickshire, England (FamilySearch); Age 93, 17 April 1946, St Michael and All Angels, Thursley Surrey, Thu/5/2 (Ancestry).

Walter H Withers. Birth Registration: Aston, 4th Qtr 1854 Vol 6d page 254 Line 15 (FamilySearch). Marriage Registration: West Bromwich, 4th Qtr 1887, Vol 6b p254 (GRO). Death Registration: Victoria Australia, 13 Oct 1914 (Public Records Office, Victoria). Probate; Walter H Withers, 20 Nov 1914; Series 136, record 229 (Public Records Office, Victoria (FamilySearch)).

Charles Ernest Withers.  Birth Registration: West Bromwich, 4th Qtr 1856 Vol 6b p518 (Ancestry). Marriage Registration: West Bromwich, 1915 Vol 6b page 1119 (Ancestry). Death Registration: Birmingham, 1942 Vol 6d page 30 (Ancestry).

Any corrections or improvements are most welcome. Especially the Death Registration for Clara Shorten which I have not found.

Thanking you

[Ratty2]

Continued (I exceeded the word limit)

Emily Mary Withers.  Birth Registration: West Bromwich, 2nd Qtr 1859, Vol 6B P589 Line 27 (FamilySearch). Marriage Registration: Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorganshire, 11 April 1895, p8. Vol 11a p877 to Frederick Crowther (1863-1925) (Ancestry). Census 1881: Emily M V Withers in the household of Alfred Cresswell, Edgbaston (Warwick), Worcestershire, citing p. 28, Piece/Folio 2956/53, The National Archives, Kew, Surrey (FamilySearch). Census 1911: Thornton Heath, Croydon, ‘a Gentleman not engaged in any trade or manufacture’ (FindMyPast). Death Registration: Frederick, Croydon Q3 1930, Vol 2a p328 (FindMyPast); Emily, Croydon Q3 1931 Vol 2a p344 (FindMyPast).

Alfred Weston Withers.  Birth Registration: West Bromwich 3rd Qtr 1861, Vol 6b p571 line 22 (FamilySearch). Death Registration: West Bromwich, 4th Qtr 1885, Vol 6b page 454, Line 60 (FamilySearch).

Florence Webb Withers. Birth Registration: West Bromwich, 2nd Qtr 1863, Vol 6B Page 647, Line 116 (FamilySearch). Marriage Registration: Llanelly, Carmarthenshire 5 September 1891, Felinfoel, Vol 11a Line 125, p1323 (Ancestry); also found in Carmarthenshire Parish Registers; 1891 page 113, Line 189 (FamilySearch). Death Registration: Pontypridd Glamorganshire; 1st Qtr 1937 Vol 11a p662 (Ancestry).

These two are another unrelated family:
WITHERS, George Arundell Joseph (Mother Sarah Welch, Father Thomas Withers, Baptisms Christ church West Bromwich).  Baptism 1865  SepQ  West Bromwich Vol 06B  Page 652 (FindMyPast).

WITHERS, Joseph Thomas (Mother Sarah, Father Thomas) 1867  JunQ   West Bromwich Vol 06B  Page 742 (Ancestry).

With many thanks
David