Edward YATES 1838-?

[Eyesee]

Lu

I think that answers the question nicely. He died on the voyage, which I thought might have been a possibility.

Guess that means that there was another son born in NZ in 1842/43 after they arrived if there was a surviving son on both parents death certificates. The George that Minniehaha found who died 1905 is the closest fit. Looking in the Cemetery records he is buried in Greytown. Will follow him up a bit and see what I can find.

Ian C

[minniehaha]

Mmm........

The newspaper reports shows a younger age:

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/MT19050801.2.35?end_date=31-12-1905&items_per_page=10&phrase=2&query=george+yates&snippet=true&start_date=01-01-1905

Actual date of death for George (1905) was 28.7.1905.

Added: Coroner's report:

https://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=23710833

Minniehaha.

[minniehaha]

Find a grave:

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/116069088/george-yates


Minniehaha.

[Lucy2]

Hi Ian

Have doubts about the George YATES (d. 1905) being a son

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/NZH19050801.2.52

Newspaper article did state this man "had no relatives in the Colony" ... and of course there were still a number of children of Henry YATES alive in 1905 (who would count as relatives).   

     ~   Lu

[Lucy2]

Ah .... think this "Sam YATES" is the missing son !

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/NEM18700307.2.5

Marriage notice for Sam YATES (s/o John YATES) and Eliza Ann FOX - 1870 :

    ~  Lu

[Lucy2]

NZ Birth

1871 - YATES - Samuel Hughy Edward
Parents:       Sam and Eliza


Edited:   Correction to spelling error.

[Lucy2]

Not much time at present to find this Sam and family ... am thinking though that he left NZ.

Just came across this 1870 bankruptcy notice.

 https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/WI18700625.2.28.2

[Lucy2]

Electoral :

1870-71 - Wellington roll

YATES
 
-  Sam - Thorndon store
-  Henry - freehold -house and land
-  John - house on Lot 565     ....  all resident at Molesworth Street

[The other Sam (Samuel) YATES who appears in NZ E/rolls, resident at Mongonui. ]

    ~  Lu

Edited to add address

[Lucy2]

Sam YATES

 ... can see has been included in some "trees" ( mainly re: Eliza Ann FOX) at ancestry.

Listed mostly as "Samuel Hugh YATES" ... and who is recorded as having died in NZ 1872.
[That is incorrect - seems to have been confused with death for "Samuel Haigh YATES" who along with his twin, Thomas Harry YATES were infant sons of Agnes and late Henry YATES, who died at Wellington aged 3 weeks in February 1872.  ]

NZBDM has death in 1947 for "a Samuel YATES - 76 - bc 1871"  :    (Haven't found death place as yet.)

   ~  Lu