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Re: Edward YATES 1838-?
« Reply #9 on: Monday 31 August 20 04:39 BST (UK) »
Maybe back to suggestion @ reply #2...?


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HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
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Re: Edward YATES 1838-?
« Reply #10 on: Monday 31 August 20 12:18 BST (UK) »
Just heard from Westernbay.

The Edward who died 1882 not buried in any of their cemeteries.

Ian C

Jane YATES (formerly WATSON), the widow of above (1882) Edward YATES, died in 1902.   Her death notice gives "Otara Cemetery" as her burial place.

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/NZH19020607.2.2.4

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Edit - to amend wording for sense.

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Re: Edward YATES 1838-?
« Reply #11 on: Monday 31 August 20 12:29 BST (UK) »
Hi Ian

NZBDM online Death Index has >

1882 / 2219       Edward  GATES    62 years      [i]( bc 1820 )[/i]
Date of death is >   5 April 1882


NZ Death Index (@ ancestry)  has  > 

Edward YATES - death registered at Drury - 2nd quarter 1882

    ~   Lu


 ???    Aren't you looking for an Edward YATES born circa 1838  ??     

[ This 1882 Edward appears to have been born c.  1820 - his wife Jane bc 1818 . ]   
 ???



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Re: Edward YATES 1838-?
« Reply #12 on: Monday 31 August 20 12:53 BST (UK) »
Ian

Wairarapa Archives may be of help ?

[Death certs for John and Jane YATES .... +  other YATES family information. ]

https://masterton.spydus.co.nz/cgi-bin/spydus.exe/FULL/OPAC/ARCENQ/34952796/39921277,5


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Re: Edward YATES 1838-?
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 15 September 20 08:30 BST (UK) »
Both John and Jane YATES death certificates indicate one surviving son.

Jane's from 1890 gives his age as 47, which indicates a birth year of 1842/43. Could be Edward but the age is a bit out. Unless it is another son altogether.

Do the diaries of John Henry Cooper the surgeon on the Martha Ridgway exist anywhere? There were a number of births and deaths on the voyage.

Ian C
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

CLAPHAM, PARKINSON, Leeds and London
TOMLIENS, Herefordshire and Southwark
CLARKE, Sussex, Cambridge and Shropshire
FAULCONER, MANNINGTON, RICHARDSON, TICEHURST, BROOK, ELPHICK, FURNER All Sussex
UDY, CLEMENCE/CLEMENTS,WHITE, COITE, COBELDICK, Cornwall
BROOKING, Devon, India
FERNANDEZ, London, Somerset, Herefordshire
RUSH, CARTER, GIBSON, REMINGTON, London and Surrey
CHALKLEY, OLNEY, Hertfordshire
HARRIS, Essex
EDWARDS, York

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Re: Edward YATES 1838-?
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 15 September 20 09:56 BST (UK) »
Hi Eyesee,

Tapuhi has some records you might find helpful.

https://natlib.govt.nz/records/22362220

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ELLERKER - Beverley ERY ENG
HEALEY - IRL?
MURDOCH - Wigtownshire SCT, Otago and Westland NZ
PALING - Nottinghamshire ENG
RILEY - Flamborough; Cottingham; South Dalton ERY, Manitoba CAN, & London ENG
STURTON - Arnold, Nottinghamshire ENG
SUTTRON - All, NRY & DUR ENG
TAYLOR - London ENG
TYLER - London ENG
TERNAN/TIERNAN - Dublin IRL

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Re: Edward YATES 1838-?
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 16 September 20 01:10 BST (UK) »
Thanks Spades but they seem to be more about the first voyage to Wellington rather than the second to Nelson that the Yates family was on.

Diaries of some of the ships surgeons are around, or ones by a passenger.

Ian C
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

CLAPHAM, PARKINSON, Leeds and London
TOMLIENS, Herefordshire and Southwark
CLARKE, Sussex, Cambridge and Shropshire
FAULCONER, MANNINGTON, RICHARDSON, TICEHURST, BROOK, ELPHICK, FURNER All Sussex
UDY, CLEMENCE/CLEMENTS,WHITE, COITE, COBELDICK, Cornwall
BROOKING, Devon, India
FERNANDEZ, London, Somerset, Herefordshire
RUSH, CARTER, GIBSON, REMINGTON, London and Surrey
CHALKLEY, OLNEY, Hertfordshire
HARRIS, Essex
EDWARDS, York

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Re: Edward YATES 1838-?
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 16 September 20 01:55 BST (UK) »
Trawling through the male deaths (in the time frame you are looking at) for Yates between 1890 and 1930 I have found the following possibilities:


1912/1822   Yates   Robert   72Y
1910/2759   Yates   Benjamin   69Y
1895/2064   Yates   George   54Y


1905/4948   Yates   George   63Y


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HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

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Re: Edward YATES 1838-?
« Reply #17 on: Friday 18 September 20 02:42 BST (UK) »
Hi Eyesee


http://www.huttcity.govt.nz/Leisure--Culture/Museums-and-galleries/Our-museums/petone-settlers-data/DisplayPerson/?Id=3264&SearchString=MARTHA%2

     *  Click on 2nd link within the result shown  ^  MART0202

Deaths aboard the "MARTHA RIDGWAY" (arrived NZ early 1842 )  >

No ages given, but an Edward GATES - died on 11 December 1841 during the voyage.

There does not appear to have been a GATES family amongst the passengers .... but it could be that YATES has been transcribed as GATES ??  (see an example of mis-transcription of this surname, earlier in this thread.)

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