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Re: Death of Annie Keen, formerly Brown, nee Johnston, 1932
« Reply #108 on: Wednesday 02 December 20 22:04 GMT (UK) »
I have just received the death certificate for Annie Marsden who died Sept 11, 1936 and I would say it is definitely our Annie, nee Johnston/Johnson. Her permanent residence was 2A Kellet Street, Pendleton as was the residence of her son John Edward Brown, informant. Annie was the widow of George Marsden, Builder's laborer. That means that the online tree with George Marsden on, with daughter Florence born abt 1900, must have wrong dod for George. This is the same George who was previously married to Hannah Bertha Sanvidge.
I thank everyone for all their help in finding Annie and her family, including the two brothers, each married to a Frances Thornhill. Now if Annie only had an obit naming any of her relatives, it might fill in the blanks especially regarding any sisters that Annie might have. Or an obit for her son John Edward Brown who died June 6, 1959 at Liverpool Head Hospital although permanent residence was 37 Walmer Street, Salford. On his death record, it says place of death Liverpool Head Hospital, Caldy Manor, Caldy. I don't know why it says Caldy Manor - was the hospital in Caldy Manor?
Annie had a brother Joseph who lived in Belfast who died in 1938 so her obit might mention him, if there is an obit.
Thanks again
Peggy
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Johnston - Co. Derry, Ireland
Groves - Co. Derry, Ireland

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Re: Death of Annie Keen, formerly Brown, nee Johnston, 1932
« Reply #109 on: Wednesday 02 December 20 22:30 GMT (UK) »
Hi Peggy
Excellent news, well done.
There are some references to Caldy Manor Hospital on the Wirral
Maybe not so many! Hints that it might have been for heart patients.
https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/hospitalrecords/details.asp?id=989&page=9

Might be a care home now?
Obits are not so easy to come by, death notices and funeral reports possibly. Will keep a look out.
John

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Re: Death of Annie Keen, formerly Brown, nee Johnston, 1932
« Reply #110 on: Wednesday 02 December 20 23:29 GMT (UK) »
Thank you John.
Peggy
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Johnston - Co. Derry, Ireland
Groves - Co. Derry, Ireland

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Re: Death of Annie Keen, formerly Brown, nee Johnston, 1932
« Reply #111 on: Thursday 03 December 20 11:13 GMT (UK) »
Hi Peggy,

This is a different George Marsden. He'll be difficult to track down because it was a very common name (there are ten of them in my tree!).
LAN: Aldcroft, Barrett, Cunliffe, Williams, Gillon/Gellan, Marsden, Turner, Travis, Abbott
CHS:Crawford, Brown
Shrop/DBY: Burgess, Marsden
IRELAND Tyrone/Antrim: Johnston, Wallace
IRELAND Co. Clare: Gellan etc


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Re: Death of Annie Keen, formerly Brown, nee Johnston, 1932
« Reply #112 on: Thursday 03 December 20 15:03 GMT (UK) »
Thanks sfir. So I take it, you don’t have any of them married to Annie. If I may ask, do you have a dod for George who was married to Hannah Bertha? Perhaps I have to order Annie’s marriage record.
Peggy
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Johnston - Co. Derry, Ireland
Groves - Co. Derry, Ireland

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Re: Death of Annie Keen, formerly Brown, nee Johnston, 1932
« Reply #113 on: Thursday 03 December 20 17:49 GMT (UK) »
A bit of confirmation that the Florence Marsden who married Ernest Cordwell at Weaste in 1925 was the daughter of the George married to Hannah Bertha (the builder's labourer born Singleton/Blackpool) who we discussed before.
Address was 53 Manchester Street, and you can do a free address search of the 1939 register, and the free results gives us Stanley Marsden born 1909 (Margaret Marsden is also on this record)

Florence's youngest brother in the 1911 census free index was Stanley.
So it's interesting there were still family at the same address in 1939.

Another son of George, Joseph Alexander, married in 1928, residence 53 Manchester Street, father George a Scaffolder.
The Manchester, Salford, Directory 1929 has George Marsden at 53 Manchester Street.
I think an elder son was a George William, but it seems reasonable to assume that George was alive then and living at that address.

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Re: Death of Annie Keen, formerly Brown, nee Johnston, 1932
« Reply #114 on: Thursday 03 December 20 18:19 GMT (UK) »
May do a quick look at some George Marsden deaths! Were any of them Annie's husband?
Here's one
June qtr 1919, Salford, George Henry Marsden, age 64
Buried 28 June 1919 at Weaste

Seems to have married Emma Etta Weir in 1901. Son Harry married in 1925, father George Henry Marsden, (deceased), Labourer. Sister Dorothy a witness.

Widow Emma Etta Marsden, father John Weir, married in Salford in 1922
RULED OUT :)

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Re: Death of Annie Keen, formerly Brown, nee Johnston, 1932
« Reply #115 on: Thursday 03 December 20 18:59 GMT (UK) »
An interesting one!
March qtr 1926, Salford, George Dyson Marsden, age 55.

Someone has him in a tree married to a Huntbach, but they have the wrong George (oh dear!)

Birth registered in Barton upon Irwell, June 1870, mother Dyson
A baptism for him, 3 August 1870, Barton Wesleyan Methodist, Barton Road.
Parents George and Mary
Born 24 May 1870

Free index to 1911 has him boarding in Pembrokeshire, age 40, still single
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7JR-387

Index of First World War Mercantile Marine Medals and the British War Medal
George Dyson Marsden
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D8061284

Looking at the card via their image viewer
Issued at Victoria Dks, London
An address written there, 50 High St, Neyland, Pem. Which is similar to 1911

George D Marsden, buried 6 January 1926 with two others, probably a Salford area cemetery (not Weaste)

Unlikely.

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Re: Death of Annie Keen, formerly Brown, nee Johnston, 1932
« Reply #116 on: Thursday 03 December 20 19:18 GMT (UK) »
Sep 1929, Salford, George Marsden, age 68

Seems to be buried at Philips Park, nonconformist section, 11 Sep 1929
Buried with him is Harriet Marsden, 24 Feb 1934

Looks like them in Pendleton, free index to 1911
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWBB-46T

He is in that 1929 directory, George Marsden, beetler, 23 Nansen st. Seedley
RULED OUT

There is also a death of a George Marsden in Ashton under Lyne in Dec 1929, age 54