James Barnaby. Can anyone succeed where I've failed?

[Ranolki]

I'm looking for information on James Barnaby, born either 1883 or 1885 in Penrhiwcester (which seems to be Penrhiwceiber).  He doesn't seem to move far, always in the Valleys.  I can see the 1911 census, the 1939 register and marriage register in 1906, potentially some discharge papers from WW1 in 1918 and nothing re his birth, parents, any other census forms, or his death.  I'm not used to working with Welsh records. Is there something (a spelling variation etc) I'm missing please?  Thank you.

[suzard]

Marriage Page 80 entry 160
St Mary Brynmawr
7 May 1906
Marriage after Banns by G R Jenkins Curate
James Barnaby 21Bachelor Collier 140 King St Brynmawr father Edward Barnaby occ Collier
Margaret Morgan 18 spinster 140 King St Brynmawr fatherJohn Morgan occ Collier
witnesses Miriam Morgan George Henry Morgan

possibly this is James parents
1881
Old Goal Cottages cott 2 Montgomery
Edward Barnaby Head M 26 labourer late of 24 reg of foot Montgomery
Maria wife 28 Bishops Castle Shropshire
Effie A daughter 3 monthsMontgomery

1891 Edward is a coal miner and in lodgings in Ystradfodwg with several other lodgers described as married -havent found maria or effie
apparantly there was another childThoas Robert Barnaby b 1889 Montgomery

Suz

[suzard]

Here they are in 1901 (transcribed as Bannaley)
32 Middle terrace Tylerstown Ystradfodwg
Edward Barnaby Head M 48 Coal Miner Hewer Montgomery
Maria wife 46 Bishop Castle Shropshire
James son 19Montgomery
Sarah daughter 14 billesden leicester (should be Clara)
Thomas son 11 Newtown Montgomery
Allen son 10 Cardiff Glam
Benjamin son 4 Tylerstown
Lucy daugher 13Humberston Leicester
RG13 5001 74 30

Suz

[Drosybont]

I was looking at the same records but Suzard got there first!

Drosybont

[CaroleW]

The 1901 entry posted by Suz links to this birth - looks like he knocked a few years off his age when he married

Births March qtr 1882   
BARNABY    James Humphrey Forden    11b   198  mmn was Sayce

Marriages June qtr 1880   
Barnaby    Edward        Atcham    6a   1181    
Sayce    Maria        

[avm228]

Edward Barnaby (labourer) married Maria Sayce, 13 Apr 1880 at Holy Trinity, Shrewsbury.

Both of 13 Brougham Square.

His father: James Barnaby, deceased, school master.
Her father: James Sayce, bricklayer.

Witnesses: John Hood; Edw. Millward.

[suzard]

1891
Maria  Barnaby (transcribed as Baka!!) M 35 Bishops Castle Salop
Effie A daughter 9 scholar Montgomery
JAMES H son 8 scholar Montgomery
Alfred E son 4 Bilston Leics?
Clara L J daughter 3 Leics
Lucy M daughter 2
Thomas R 1 Newton Montgomery
RG12 4593 100 13

will look for birth regs of children -it seems theyall had middle names
Maria and Edward had 10 children but only 6 were living by 1911 and the father had died

Suz

[suzard]

children of edward Barnaby and Maria Sayce
(on some of the children's baptism Edward has the middle name Humphrey)

EFFIE ARABELLA BARNABY 4th qtr 1880 Forden Montgomery
baptised 23 Dec 1880St Nicholas Montgomery address Old Gaol
fathers occ Labourer
JAMES HUMPHREY BARNABY Mar qtr 1882 Forden baptised 5 Mar 1882
ALFRED EDWARD BARNABY baptised 16 Jan 1885 billesdon Leicester father Edward Humphrey Barnaby Mother Maria
CLARA LOUISA JANE  BARNABY 3rd qtr 1886 Billesdon Leics born 3 July1886 baptised 6 Aug 1886 Billesdon father Edward Humphrey Barnaby mother Maria Death reg Dec qtr 1884 Billesdon age 0)
LUCY MARY BARNABY mar qtr 1888 Billesdon (mothers maiden name transcribed as Sayer)
THOMAS ROBERT BARNABY 4th qtr 1889 Newtown montgomery
ALLEN DERSEY BARNABY4th qtr 1891 Cardiff
BENJAMIN JOHN BARNABY Mar qtr 1895 Cardiff death reg age 0 Mar qtr 1895 Cardiff
BENJAMIN JOHN BARNABY BIRTH REG 3rd qtr 1896 Pontypridd

Suz

[Annette7]

Begs the question - why does James state Penrhiwceiber as his birthplace when it was actually Montgomery?    94 miles between the 2 places.

He died as James H. Barnaby bc.1882, in June qtr. 1942  Caerleon, Monmouthshire.

Annette