Mary Cotter b c 1905

[*Sandra*]

Obituary - The Philadelphia Inquirer Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 16 Mar 2016, Wed    Page B06

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/58627976/obituary-for-vernon-j-grant-aged-80/

Sandra

[*Sandra*]

wife of Vernon Grant (above)

The Philadelphia Inquirer Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 27 May 2001, Sun    Page 10

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/58628033/obituary-for-carol-c-grant-aged-59/

Sandra

[*Sandra*]

Interesting have just come across an anc tree for Grudziak family - linked to Vernon and Carol above)
This would give you contact.

Sandra

  :-\last online 1 year ago !!

[ballydw]

Interesting have just come across an anc tree for Grudziak family - linked to Vernon and Carol above)
This would give you contact.

Sandra

  :-\last online 1 year ago !!

THank you Sandra you certainly have given me lots of information to work on Patrick Cotters christian names seems to alternate between Joseph & Patrick

[oldohiohome]

I might look through the Philadelphia arrivals themselves - they were a separate set of records.
He isn't in all the city directories for some reason.

I didn't find him by searching the Philadelphia arrivals separately.
I looked back through the city directories. There are no other Cotters at any of his addresses - the ones for him on the censuses or the ones for him in the city directories.

[ballydw]

I might look through the Philadelphia arrivals themselves - they were a separate set of records.
He isn't in all the city directories for some reason.

I didn't find him by searching the Philadelphia arrivals separately.
I looked back through the city directories. There are no other Cotters at any of his addresses - the ones for him on the censuses or the ones for him in the city directories.

thks for your efforts I have now located on social media some descendants of Patrick Cotter hoping I will get replies to my messages will update you if I see.on 1900 census Patrick is recorded as born March 1873 immigrated 1892 . I dont hold much hope about the 2nd family of Patrick having any info on his origins.

[oldohiohome]

I looked again at the birth record for Patrick and Nora's daughter Annie, and it was 14 December 1901, not the 15th.
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Arriving New York August 4, 1929, from Cobh (Queenstown) July 28, 1929, on the SS Adriatic
Anna C Cotter, 27, single, born December 14, 1901, Philadelphia
Bette R Cotter, 23, single, born September 24, 1905, Philadelphia
both returning to home: 41 West 72nd Street, New York

[US citizens didn't have to list a contact person in the country they were leaving.]

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:24XR-J75

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New York, NY index to marriage licenses
18 June 1941, Manhattan, New York City
certificate: 10552

Ann C Cotter, 39, born December 1901, Ardmore, Pennsylvania, a nurse, living at 17 West 91st St, father: Patrick J Cotter, mother: Nora Cotter
current marriage number: 1

and
Carlton Joseph Chartier, 30, born 13 April 1911, Springfield, Massachusetts, an electrician, living at 530 State St, Brooklyn. father: Able Chartier, mother: Malvina Chartier
current marriage number: 0

witnesses: George A Perez, Elizabeth C Wilder
[that is her sister]

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Massachusetts Death Index
Ann C Chartier
died 16 November 1988, Charlemont
born 14 December 1901, Pennsylvania
certificate: 59342

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last residence on her Social Security Death Index was Mount Vernon, Westchester County, NY
[why was her check being sent there if she lived, and died, in Massachusetts?]

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Ann at findagrave
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/198892428/ann-chartier

Ann's obituary: Brattleboro (Vermont) Reformer, 11 November 1988
ancestry.com's index says parents: Patrick Cotter and Mora Kelacky Cotter. siblings: Elizabeth Wilder

I don't have a subscription to access the obituary, but I think it would have mentioned children if there were any.
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her husband:
Massachusetts Death Index
Carlton J Chartier
27 September 1995, Charlemont
born 13 April 1911, Massachusetts

Carlton's obit: Brattleboro (Vermont) Reformer, 28 September 1995

[oldohiohome]

New York, NY marriage license indexes
Bette R Cotter
and George C Wilder
married 19 December 1931, Manhattan
License: 28642

[oldohiohome]

1940 Census Manhattan NYC
April 16, 1940

at 625 West 156th
George C Wilder, 33, 2 years college, born in New York, secretary, city court judge
Bette Wilder, 33, 4 years high school, born in Pennsylvania
Constance Wilder, 6, 1 year school, born in New York
Patrick Wilder, 3m, born in New York
all lived in New York City in 1935, but not at this address

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KQTP-Z7D