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Thomas Harding/harden 1830
« on: Sunday 13 September 20 16:09 BST (UK) »
I am trying not to find a birth record for Thomas harding, father Benjamin. Thomas married emma lucas in 1856. I think he was born in Abdon Shropshire but it may have been Tugford. I can see a Benjamin Harding marriage to Elizabeth Davies in 1822 and records for several of their children birth but cannot find one for Thomas. Any help would be very welcome. Thanks.

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Re: Thomas Harding/harden 1830
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 13 September 20 17:22 BST (UK) »
Presumably you have Thomas's father as Benjamin from his marriage to Emma Lucas.  What was his occupation and who were the witnesses
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Re: Thomas Harding/harden 1830
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 13 September 20 18:43 BST (UK) »
Hi
Benjamin harden was a labourer
The witnesses were Thomas and Anna lucas...so not much help.
Thomas and Emma were married in stottesden....the county is salop which i think means Shropshire. Thomas's age was 27 and emma 20. thomas's residence at the time was Burwarton.
Any help would be gladly welcomed as i have spent some time searching various sites. Thomas was called harding in later censuses but he is definitely harden on the marriage certificate.
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Re: Thomas Harding/harden 1830
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 13 September 20 21:03 BST (UK) »
No sign of a Thomas though in the household of Benjamin and Elizabeth in 1841 or 1851  :-\

1841 www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQR5-646
1851 www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SG6Z-WWM

Have you seen any possible entry for Thomas in these censuses?

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Re: Thomas Harding/harden 1830
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 13 September 20 21:11 BST (UK) »
Is this a possible entry you may have for Thomas in 1851? www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SG66-357

Can't really see anything for 1841. Have you found anything that could be his entry that year?

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Re: Thomas Harding/harden 1830
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 13 September 20 22:16 BST (UK) »
Hi
Yes I had found the 1851 information which seems fit re age and place. I wondered if he had been sent to live somewhere away from home in 1841 if his parents had several children to feed at home. He would have been 11 then so maybe had to work for someone. Its frustrating that i cannot find the birth registration anywhere.
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Re: Thomas Harding/harden 1830
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 13 September 20 22:32 BST (UK) »
There is this baptism for a Harden

First name(s)   Thomas
Last name   Harden
Birth year   -
Baptism year   1829
Baptism date   20 Dec 1829
Denomination   Anglican
Place   Tugford
Father's first name(s)   -
Mother's first name(s)   Margarett Harden
Mother's last name   -
Residence   -
County   Shropshire
Register type   Baptism
Register date range   1813-1900
Archive reference   P285/A/2/1
Page   17
Record set   Shropshire Baptisms
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: Thomas Harding/harden 1830
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 13 September 20 22:43 BST (UK) »
They are in the 1861 census as Harding

Registration district   Cleobury Mortimer
Enumeration district   2
Archive reference   RG09
Piece number   1847
Folio   17
Page   5

Thomas's birthplace is given as Ludford, Shropshire born 1831
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: Thomas Harding/harden 1830
« Reply #8 on: Monday 14 September 20 08:15 BST (UK) »
In later censuses his birth year varies between 1829 and 1834! Sometimes ludford and sometimes abdon
 They are all close to cleo Mortimer and Burwarton where he lived at different times. Would be great to find a connection to his father Benjamin somehow...unless he did not really know who his dad was!