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Re: Nora.s disappearance flummoxed detectives
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 17 September 20 06:28 BST (UK) »
Nora was alive 1940 census however 1942 Harris is giving Mable Catherine as his wife so Nora must have died after the 1940 census but before Harris signed up for WWII. 26 April 1942

I did have an awful thought since Harry/Harris Dassele according to family notified John Daulman of her death that he expected John to arrange/pay for the funeral and John thought Harry/Harris was going to arrange/pay and if neither came forward Nora would have become a statistic an unclaimed person.

John H C Daulman remarried 1942 according to your notes do you know exactly when? He may have known his wife was dead.

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« Reply #10 on: Thursday 17 September 20 10:52 BST (UK) »
So he was not with Nora for very long as we have him with wife Leona 1939
& Mabel in 1942

How would you go about finding if there was an unclaimed body at funeral home .

Obituaries of his children are on Ancestry but I dont have extra coverage to read them  as you have found his death date that wouldnt help..

His son Samuel listed his mother Baltimore's address on his WW 2 registration  .

Its very mysterious .
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Re: Nora.s disappearance flummoxed detectives
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 17 September 20 20:27 BST (UK) »
See if anyone has the deaths for Brooklyn 1940 and 1941 perhaps the New York Genealogical Society.

Otherwise you could contact the coroners office for Kings County New York. Make it short and to the point
Name Nora Cathleen Daulman, DOB 11 December 1905 born Ireland
Last known address 127 58th Street on 1 April 1940 (census)
Household of Harry Dassele wholesale baker
Husband John H C Daulman and son Clifford address 47th Street Brooklyn as of 1930
Husband had remarried by 16 February 1942


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Re: Nora.s disappearance flummoxed detectives
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 17 September 20 22:59 BST (UK) »
Thank you amongd
Theres also the possibility that she did not die then
 ..but moved on somewhere else.
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Re: Nora.s disappearance flummoxed detectives
« Reply #13 on: Friday 18 September 20 14:55 BST (UK) »
There are various New York City death indexes online.  https://www.deathindexes.com/newyork/city.html   However, I didn't see any sign of her. 

I didn't see any indication that she married Harris Dassell.  On the 1940 census, Harris and Nora both have a 7 written next to their marital status, which indicates they weren't living with their spouses.  1940 is the most recent US census available, but 1950 is expected to be out in 2022.

The Brooklyn public library has city directories/telephone books online if you want to try looking there - https://www.nypl.org/collections/articles-databases/digitized-brooklyn-city-directories


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« Reply #14 on: Friday 18 September 20 15:55 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the links

I tried looking for nora  in those death index too unsuccessfully

Will try the second link .
Modified * site not accessible is it because im in uk ?

..I knew it wouldnt be easy or the private investigators would have found something

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« Reply #15 on: Friday 18 September 20 18:02 BST (UK) »
You're welcome.  I guess your location might limit what's available.

In case it helps, I found a mention in the Baltimore Sun from 24 Jun. 1941 about Harris & Leona Dassele being involved in a divorce case.  Harris was in the same paper for a criminal court case due a disorderly house in May 1924.  Harris put an announcement in the same paper on 1 Aug. 1924 that he wouldn't be responsible for debts contracted by his wife Mrs. Leona Dassele

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Re: Nora.s disappearance flummoxed detectives
« Reply #16 on: Friday 18 September 20 21:18 BST (UK) »
The Brooklyn public library has city directories/telephone books online if you want to try looking there - https://www.nypl.org/collections/articles-databases/digitized-brooklyn-city-directories

Modified * site not accessible is it because im in uk ?

Link works for me and I'm also in the U.K. so perhaps try again.
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!

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Re: Nora.s disappearance flummoxed detectives
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 19 September 20 10:09 BST (UK) »
Great find Shelly
& I,lol follow up directories agha thanks
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