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Re: Elizabeth Lucy Cartwright, née Gibson
« Reply #18 on: Monday 05 October 20 15:45 BST (UK) »
I posted this on main board because I was interested in this original post.

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Re: Elizabeth Lucy Cartwright, née Gibson
« Reply #19 on: Friday 09 October 20 14:24 BST (UK) »
UPDATE: Thank you to everyone who has posted, in particular Rosie and John. Marriage certificate arrived this morning from the GRO. Can confirm that:

Marriage Mar qtr 1935   
Gibson    Arthur   
Heath    Elizabeth L   
Surrey N W    2a   547

Was the marriage I was looking for. The details listed in the certificate are a match for my relative, Arthur Gibson.  I can also confirm that the 1935 Chertsey/Walton on Thames address is correct as I now know who Arthur’s mother in law was.

My next mission is to try to find out when Arthur Gibson died. I have a few leads to follow up on this.

I just wanted to say that without everyone’s help I would not have been able to find this information, everyone is always so helpful on the forum

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Re: Elizabeth Lucy Cartwright, née Gibson
« Reply #20 on: Friday 09 October 20 14:59 BST (UK) »
Great result, I will spend a wee while looking for Arthur's death.

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Re: Elizabeth Lucy Cartwright, née Gibson
« Reply #21 on: Friday 09 October 20 15:14 BST (UK) »
Bearing in mind his birthdate and location in 1939 a contender for death below

Arthur Gibson
Death Age:   65
Birth Date:   abt 1883
Registration Date:   
Registration Quarter:   Oct-Nov-Dec  registered in Oct 1948
Registration District:   Stoke on Trent
Inferred County:   Staffordshire
Volume:   9b
Page:   479

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Re: Elizabeth Lucy Cartwright, née Gibson
« Reply #22 on: Friday 09 October 20 15:55 BST (UK) »
Great result, I will spend a wee while looking for Arthur's death.

John

Thanks John, very much appreciated. Just out of interest, are you using BMD or the GRO for searching for index records? Which would your recommend?

One point I forgot to mention was that in the marriage cert Arthur gave his birth date as 1889 rather than abt. 1883 as it appears in census. However I am certain this is him. I believe he lied about his age as there was a big age gap between him and his wife. This had caused issues in the family.

Furthermore, I cannot be certain Arthur died in Stoke-on-Trent. I certainly think its a fair assumption.

Elizabeth Lucy Gibson married again in Ploughley, Oxfordshire in 1969. This may not be relevant, perhaps this is where she and Arthur were living upon his death?

If I was a betting man, it would say Stoke on Trent was likely where Arthur died.

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Re: Elizabeth Lucy Cartwright, née Gibson
« Reply #23 on: Friday 09 October 20 22:22 BST (UK) »
Hi, the marriage certificate you have just received for Arthur & Elizabeth should record his father's name as Frear. Freebmd lists the marriage of Frear Gibson & Eliza Bainbridge in 1882 and Arthur is born 1883 with mmn as Bainbridge. The GRO index lists births now with a mother's maiden name, Freebmd does not. With regard to deaths I tend to use Anc* deaths 1916-2007 as freebmd has not yet transcribed all deaths yet, think they are working on 1984-1992. The gro index for deaths goes up to 2019 but you have to trawl though a date +/- 2 years from 2007 onwards as you cannot enter a birth year unlike Anc*, ( think I am correct with that statement but if not someone will put me right) I use a rule of thumb that if someone was born pre 1907 then their death is normally before 2007, there will always be exceptions to this rule of course

With regard to Arthur recording his age in 1935 as born 1889 is probably exactly the reason you have stated, there was a "fair" gap in ages. The Stoke on Trent death is not a given but certain criteria are met. Like the marriage cert you ordered you have to take a chance sometimes ie "you pays your money and take a chance". There were 5 other Arthur deaths with dob 1883(between 1916-2007)but death locations did not seem to fit.

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Re: Elizabeth Lucy Cartwright, née Gibson
« Reply #24 on: Friday 09 October 20 22:32 BST (UK) »
Just learnt something after posting last message. Anc* now has deaths 1989-2019 and you can enter a birth year.

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Re: Elizabeth Lucy Cartwright, née Gibson
« Reply #25 on: Saturday 10 October 20 08:48 BST (UK) »
Just learnt something after posting last message. Anc* now has deaths 1989-2019 and you can enter a birth year.

John

Just adding that it is not all the deaths, many are sourced from some undertakers records by a company in Yorkshire

The GRO index at https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp. does have records for that period though
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Re: Elizabeth Lucy Cartwright, née Gibson
« Reply #26 on: Saturday 10 October 20 09:40 BST (UK) »
Thanks rosie, every day a learning day even for old farts like me :)

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