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Re: John & James HUNTER, Bakers Dalry
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 07 October 20 11:27 BST (UK) »
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Re: John & James HUNTER, Bakers Dalry
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 07 October 20 12:23 BST (UK) »
My older brother briefly rented a ground floor flat in Templand tenement. However, if you are following Hunters into the 20th Century there was a Jim Hunter of Kilbirnie ( just over the Hill) who was in the 1960s Manager of the Wonderloaf bread factory at Stevenston Cross ( later a KwikSave supermarket and latterly DEBRA Furniture Charity Store).
  Jim was married into the Millars of Kilbirnie family ( Wholesale and Retail Bakers) with a factory and shops in Kilbirnie.  After Wonderloaf he became Wholesale Manager of Millars of Kilbirnie, I briefly worked for him selling and delivering Olde-Fashioned Handmade Cakes and Biscuits throughout the West of Scotland, causing me to develop a love of Cherry Madeira cake.   
Only guessing but I would suggest Jim's DOB as circa 1915 -1933ish.  When he left the Millars' operation he took on a wee general store in the main street of Kilbirnie just a stone's throw south of Ramages' Bar.
Just remembering conversations with Jim he had past family connections in the Garnock Valley with Bakers ... in the blood as it were, cheers, Ian
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Re: John & James HUNTER, Bakers Dalry
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 08 October 20 07:17 BST (UK) »
Jamjar - thanks for the familysearch link.  It appears to be their arrival in NZ.
Ian - thanks for this information.  I will in due course be following the Hunters into the 20th century.
Unfortunately with the names being so common it takes awhile to check them out.
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Re: John & James HUNTER, Bakers Dalry
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 08 October 20 21:56 BST (UK) »

I don't know what the ## ... etc are...

This would normally indicate that those sections are worn away and not legible.

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Re: John & James HUNTER, Bakers Dalry
« Reply #13 on: Friday 09 October 20 09:25 BST (UK) »
Thanks Monica.
Often it is important information that is missing or illegible.
The Thomas Hamilton who died in NZ was a Medical Practitioner and died on 23 Nov 1910 in Richmond age 41 years.  He is buried in Richmond cemetery, Nelson, NZ.  He was married and had a son and a daughter.

Rebecca Hunter (17 years 1851 census) married John Smith on 1 June 1857 at Dalry.
She died on 23 April 1869 age 36 yrs.  John Smith is recorded as "late Sea Captain".
Father: John Hunter, Baker, deceased
Mother: Jean Hunter M.S. Speir - West Kilbride
Informant: John Hunter, brother
Source: Ancestry public family tree.  I have not yet confirmed this information.

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Re: John & James HUNTER, Bakers Dalry
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 10 October 20 20:35 BST (UK) »
The death details for Rebecca you mention come from the original image of the SP death reg so look to be correct as the image has been included on the family tree (I was looking at this one www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/person/tree/729641/person/112205230366/facts).

Rebecca and husband John Smith are living with her mother in 1861 in Dalry.

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Re: John & James HUNTER, Bakers Dalry
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 14 October 20 06:57 BST (UK) »
Many thanks Monica.

I have now received a copy of Hugh Hunter's death registration.  Date of death 17 March 1897, Hamilton West, New Zealand age 68 years.  His occupation is given as Baker.
Parents given as "John Hunter, General Merchant and Jean Hunter formerly Spear".
Born Dalry, Ayrshire, Scotland.  In NZ 33 years.
Married Melbourne, Victoria.  Married at age 24 to Ellen Moroney.
Informant was Undertaker.
These dates indicate a year of birth as 1829.
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Re: John & James HUNTER, Bakers Dalry
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 14 October 20 21:58 BST (UK) »
Great news, TBP  ;) You now have good confirmation of Hugh's parents' names. Pity that Hugh's grave inscription showed the wrong name for his father but at least you now have the details you need from his death reg!

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