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Re: Notation in Graves Register Gateshead East Cemetery
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 11 October 20 14:28 BST (UK) »
Thanks Stan

I wasn't aware of that, but it would explain it being 'out [of date]' and not a straw in sight! :-)
Off to look for burial laws!

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Re: Notation in Graves Register Gateshead East Cemetery
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 11 October 20 15:07 BST (UK) »
I realise I am kicking the backside out of this :-) . . . but

Depending on 'when' this law was repealed, Stan's explanation may well have solved another puzzle.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QHV-L3VC-C97J-C?cat=825084

That is a grave register I was looking at yesterday. Grave 6871 on the right hand side of the page.
5 burials between 1921 and 1957- the grave was not purchased according to the relevant column.

The earliest 4 burials were
William Myers 1921, Jane Myers (William's wife) 1923, Andrew Forrester (their grandson) 1930, and Alfred Myers (their son) 1936. All the same family so the 14 year rule between interments would not apply, even though it wasn't a 'purchased grave'.

Alfred's entry is marked as 'out' so I can now assume that note was added either in 1950 (14 years after his interment) or whenever the time limit law was repealed.

and the final burial was Arthur Bond - (I can find no trace whatsoever that this man was related to the other grave occupants) in 1957.

Thank you! I do like it when I finally understand what has happened, when and why!

Boo

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Re: Notation in Graves Register Gateshead East Cemetery
« Reply #11 on: Monday 12 October 20 00:35 BST (UK) »
Just to give you another straw to chew over, when a grave is first dug, there is a limit to the number of burials it can contain without disturbing the previous burials. So perhaps the entry of 'out' may mean it is out of consideration for other burials.

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Re: Notation in Graves Register Gateshead East Cemetery
« Reply #12 on: Monday 12 October 20 10:56 BST (UK) »
I'll add that straw to my haystack, thanks Colin.
I do think Stan may have cracked it with the time limit between burials for non related people, though I haven't yet been able to track down when it applied and when it was repealed.

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Re: Notation in Graves Register Gateshead East Cemetery
« Reply #13 on: Monday 12 October 20 13:56 BST (UK) »
I'll add that straw to my haystack, thanks Colin.
I do think Stan may have cracked it with the time limit between burials for non related people, though I haven't yet been able to track down when it applied and when it was repealed.

Boo

It was 2007 when I first posted that Burial Law used to require a 14-year interval between successive burials. Unfortunately, I cannot remember where I saw that quoted, and I cannot find any reference to that on the internet. Apparently, the Local Government Board made regulations for burials in burial grounds provided under the Burial Acts and for cemeteries provided under the Public Health Act 1879.  so it may have been  a regulation made by the board. (The Local Government Board was a supervisory body overseeing local administration in England and Wales from 1871 to 1919.)

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Re: Notation in Graves Register Gateshead East Cemetery
« Reply #14 on: Monday 12 October 20 14:23 BST (UK) »
From https://www.southtyneside.gov.uk/article/34740/Choosing-a-grave

Unpurchased Graves: The council ensures that there is an 8 year interval between successive burials in these graves (unless the deceased were from the same family).

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Re: Notation in Graves Register Gateshead East Cemetery
« Reply #15 on: Monday 12 October 20 16:16 BST (UK) »
Thanks for both posts Stan. Though I obviously missed your original 2007 post about it,  this rule about length of time between burials has answered a lot of questions for me.

I have lots of instances where family members are in the same unpurchased grave and always assumed that the cemetery was being nice and tried to bury families together if possible even if they hadn't paid for the burial rights.
I now realise that though they may well have been being nice, they were also ensuring the most efficient use of the available space.

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Re: Notation in Graves Register Gateshead East Cemetery
« Reply #16 on: Monday 12 October 20 17:24 BST (UK) »
From https://www.southtyneside.gov.uk/article/34740/Choosing-a-grave

Unpurchased Graves: The council ensures that there is an 8 year interval between successive burials in these graves (unless the deceased were from the same family).

North Tyneside seems to be sticking to 14 years!
"Families who choose not to purchase the rights to a grave are offered a grave which has previously been buried in (minimum of 14 years ago) with depth remaining for a further burial. "
https://my.northtyneside.gov.uk/category/560/burials

But what about all the big, privately owned cemeteries round London? They shoved loads of unrelated people into the same common grave within a few days?