Marriage Look Up Request Francis Joseph Francis and Lois Lydia Clark 1881-1885

[nellie d]

Thank you CaroleW.

[nellie d]

Possible 1851 census

HO107; Piece: 1491; Folio: 726; Page: 41;

John

Thank you johnhood.
I saw that and kept a note as it is the only census with possibly him on, before 1891.
I have scoured everywhere for his father’s...also Francis Joseph Francis, Shipping Agent...marriage to a Jane, but as with Francis Joseph Jr it is proving elusive!
Maybe they were out of country...maybe he was in the military. Being a shipping agent, maybe he was away a lot?
 

[nellie d]

I have also looked for him as Frank!

[Dundee]

Possible 1851 census

HO107; Piece: 1491; Folio: 726; Page: 41;

John

The gaps in ages for the children might suggest that they had different fathers.  I can't see any evidence of a birth registration for Francis Joseph FRANCIS in the London area.

Debra 

[Dundee]

Where do you see Francis born c1850 using the middle name Joseph?

Debra 

[nellie d]

Dundee...what a good observation. I went back through everything and he isn’t Francis Joseph anywhere. I am not sure how he gained that middle my records. It’s been that for years...so that was a very helpful insight. With that in mind I did another search and found francis Francis , June Q 1849,
Lambeth V 4 P 352. I think that must be him. So I will send off for the birth certificate!

[softly softly]

Hi Nellie d, can I suggest you hold off ordering birth certificate for a couple of days as we on rootschat May be able to find out more about that birth before you do order

John

[nellie d]

Hi Nellie d, can I suggest you hold off ordering birth certificate for a couple of days as we on rootschat May be able to find out more about that birth before you do order

John

Okay, John. Thank you!
I suppose it’s been waiting all these years, a bit longer won’t make a difference!   

[mckha489]

That birth has MMN WILLIAMS

Suspect it might be this family in 1851 at 41 Sutton street

Philip H Francis.  30 Officer of inland revenue, b Hampshire
Ann Cox Francis 33.  wife. B Dorset, Bridport
Amelia G  dau 5 b Beauminster, Dorset
Henry C son 3.             Ditto
Philip F 5 m b  Lambeth

Suspect it might be this family in 1851 at 141 Sutton street

Philip Francis Francis buried 5 Nov 1851 of Sutton street

Francis Francis also of Sutton street buried April 22 1850