John Wilford Naseby

[MaureeninNY]

I guess you mean this one:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QP4W-SBSQ

Doesn't it say her father is James?

David's father is listed as John.

Maureen

[weirdwizard56]

I guess you mean this one:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QP4W-SBSQ

Doesn't it say her father is James?

David's father is listed as John.

Maureen

Went searching for her baptism Censuses etc and that is where I got John.  Still think I need to get certificate.

[MaureeninNY]

I guess you mean this one:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QP4W-SBSQ

Doesn't it say her father is James?

David's father is listed as John.

Maureen

Went searching for her baptism Censuses etc and that is where I got John.  Still think I need to get certificate.

Your choice,of course, but I don't think the GRO marriage cert (is that what you meant by  BMD CODE etc.) would show any difference.

Kind regards,
Maureen

[weirdwizard56]

Thanks Maureen it will tell me if it is James what he does and if he is still alive

[MaureeninNY]

Thanks Maureen it will tell me if it is James what he does and if he is still alive

Well-no. It says he's deceased on the Parish Reg image and that's all you will get on the GRO one (without all the original handwriting)  Trust me on this one. Very sorry if I sound "snippy".

Maureen

[weirdwizard56]

No problems Maureen thought I was being snippy as well.  Now I have got to look for James when was he born etc, because I think it said that she was marriageable age which I think is 21 in those days.

[MaureeninNY]

I may be clutching at straws here but looked at Timothy/Ann Hale* who Mary was with in 1841 Census.

Timothy HALL died 1842 age 65, buried 26 Aug 1842 ( born c 1777)

Married Ann PALMER 1798 Claybrooke

Children bapt Claybrooke to them;
THOMAS 1802 born 1802
RICHARD 1805, born 1804, buried 1806
SARAH 30 March 1810 born 19 Oct 1809*****
ANNE 1813 born 1812
RICHARD 1823
Large gap in children 1812-1822

Is it possible Sarah 1809 married a John Wilford and therefore Timothy/Ann are Mary Wilfords Grandparents?

Just a theory to explore more.

That's a good one,Trish.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QP4W-LQRN

Isn't Mary with the BROWN family in 1851?

And a marriage for Sarah HALL and James WILFORD:
9 Nov 1829

Marriage Place:
Naseby, Northamptonshire, England

Maureen

[trish1120]

Ok thanks Maureen

So her Father is James from the M/C 1853.
(I confess I didnt even find that marriage info!)

That leaves a Bapt problem unless the possible one to John/Sarah  is transcribed wrongly?

Main thing is we know that Mary Wilford has a Father James and she is with her Grandparents in 1841.

Also Marys 1st Daug Sarah Jane was bapt 11 Apr 1850 so Illegitimate.

Trish

[weirdwizard56]

Thought I let you know found a Sarah Wilford in the 1851 Census I do not think it is our Sarah but it could be James mother.
Event Date:   
1851
Event Place:   
Naseby, Northamptonshire, England
Registration District:   
Brixworth
Residence Note:   
Back Street
Gender:   
Female
Age:   
72
Marital Status:   
Widow
Occupation:   
Pauper
Birth Year (Estimated):   
1779
Birthplace:   
Oddley, Leicestershire
Relationship to Head of Household:   
Head
Page Number:   
33
Registration Number:   
HO107
Piece/Folio:   
1742 / 36
Affiliate Record Type:   
Household
Affiliate Image Identifier:   
http://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=GBC/1851/4355526/00074&parentid=GBC/1851/0007234453
Household   Role   Sex   Age   Birthplace
Sarah Wilford   Head   Female   72   Oddley, Leicestershire
John Wilford   Son   Male   27   Naseby, Northamptonshire
Elizabeth Wilford   Daughter-In-Law   Female   21   Creaton, Northamptonshire
Jane Wilford   Grand Daughter   Female   1   Naseby, Northamptonshire