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Re: Tearing my hair out
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 27 October 20 17:31 GMT (UK) »
Apologies for this, but I'm confused:

Gillian Stewart - adopted and surname changed to Ransom.  However, she marries as Gillian Wheaton???  Where does the Wheaton surname come from?  And then she remarries and becomes Ransom again.  :-\

[Ray]  - I'm hoping that as a transcriber for FreeBMD, we are all classed as 'anonymous'   :-\   I might have to look into this further.

Added:  just checked and it just gives my real name - no mention of anonymous.

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Re: Tearing my hair out
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 27 October 20 18:03 GMT (UK) »
I would think that the place to start is with the birth certificate.
Trish has found the birth with mmn of Stewart so hopefully that would give the mother’s name.

Then you could work back, Trish, if that is what you want to do.

You seem to have adoption and marriage details.
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Re: Tearing my hair out
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 27 October 20 18:06 GMT (UK) »
I believe she is on 1939, I am referring to her mother

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Re: Tearing my hair out
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 27 October 20 18:13 GMT (UK) »
Thank you so much for what you've done, I still have my hair on my head! Sorry Wheaton was Gillian's adopted surname.  She married twice or more, Stephens & Ransom, so far. There are a couple I'm not sure about. It appears Gillian's biological parent Winifred's surname should have been Edwards, her father I believe used an alias of Stewart, I learnt this afternoon. What a can of worms! Why would Gillian report the marriage of her mother to BMD organisation & said she wanted to remain anonymous?  Baffled!
Gillian when she was alive, said there where secrets. Thanks again Trish
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Re: Tearing my hair out
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 27 October 20 18:47 GMT (UK) »
Thank you so much for what you've done, I still have my hair on my head! Sorry Wheaton was Gillian's adopted surname.  She married twice or more, Stephens & Ransom, so far. There are a couple I'm not sure about. It appears Gillian's biological parent Winifred's surname should have been Edwards, her father I believe used an alias of Stewart, I learnt this afternoon. What a can of worms! Why would Gillian report the marriage of her mother to BMD organisation & said she wanted to remain anonymous?  Baffled!
Gillian when she was alive, said there where secrets. Thanks again Trish

I don’t understand part of this message.
Is it not just a coincidence that the transcriber of Gillian’s marriage is also called Gillian.
The other transcriber if you search for R S has given his nickname and then his name.
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Re: Tearing my hair out
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 27 October 20 18:59 GMT (UK) »
A certificate might be a good idea for one if it 2 of the  marriages

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Re: Tearing my hair out
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 27 October 20 19:14 GMT (UK) »
If I need to remove this post please let me or a mod know.

IF Gillian's mmn was Stewart then her mother could well be Winifred Maud Stewart

Births Mar 1913 
Stewart    Winifred M (Maud on gro index)    Luscombe    Plymouth    5b   307

She appears as single in 1939 as single

Marriages Sep 1940 
Stewart    Winifred M    Edwards    Plymouth    5b   1113

Wilfred R (Risdon) Edwards appears as single in 1939

A son Peter William George Edwards is born 1944--he dies 2007 (mmn Stewart)

Wilfred Ranson Edwards dies 1975
Winifred Maud Edwards dies 1987 her dob is 25.12.1912 (day and month correct but one year out)

Not sure it answers the post but does fit a lot of the criteria listed. Be good to find the son somewhere as a pharmacist

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Re: Tearing my hair out
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 27 October 20 19:14 GMT (UK) »
Wilfred R Edwards married Winifred Stewart about 1942 from memory, , not at my main computer, son Peter born 1944

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Sorry John you pipped me to it but I agree with all of the info
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Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
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Coveney Kent Lambeth
Sondes kent and London

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Re: Tearing my hair out
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 27 October 20 19:32 GMT (UK) »
Thank you so much for what you've done, I still have my hair on my head! Sorry Wheaton was Gillian's adopted surname.  She married twice or more, Stephens & Ransom, so far. There are a couple I'm not sure about. It appears Gillian's biological parent Winifred's surname should have been Edwards, her father I believe used an alias of Stewart, I learnt this afternoon. What a can of worms! Why would Gillian report the marriage of her mother to BMD organisation & said she wanted to remain anonymous?  Baffled!
Gillian when she was alive, said there where secrets. Thanks again Trish

Trish, is your thinking that she may have married again in 1964 as Wheaton. There are 3 children born 1965-72 with the appropriate surname and mmn. It possibly means she divorced first husband or??

John