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Re: McGrory Pettigo, Donegal to Camlough, Armagh
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 05 November 20 18:28 GMT (UK) »
Researching: Cuthbertson – Co. Derry, Scotland & Australia; Hunter – Co. Derry; Jackson – Co. Derry, Scotland & Canada; Scott – Co. Derry; Neilly – Co. Antrim & USA; McCurdy – Co. Antrim; Nixon – Co. Cavan, Co. Donegal, Canada & USA; Ryan & Noble – Co. Sligo

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Re: McGrory Pettigo, Donegal to Camlough, Armagh
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 05 November 20 19:37 GMT (UK) »

Note that all the families were living in Bessbrook at the time of the 1901 Irish census.


The families were living in Frederick Street and Fountain Street. If you want to see the location of Frederick Street and Fountain Street, enter the
PRONI Historical Maps Viewer.
https://apps.spatialni.gov.uk/PRONIApplication/

Click on ‘Agree terms and conditions’

Icons top right – click on ‘Layer List’
Select OSNI Historical Third edition (1900-1907)

In ‘Find Address or Place’ (top left) type Clogharevan.
Click 'Clogharevan (Killevy)'
Zoom in (4 clicks) and pan to Bessbrook to see the two streets and Bessbrook as a whole.

Some more information about the history of Bessbrook in Killevy parish.
http://www.placenamesni.org/resultdetails.php?entry=14681

KG


Researching: Cuthbertson – Co. Derry, Scotland & Australia; Hunter – Co. Derry; Jackson – Co. Derry, Scotland & Canada; Scott – Co. Derry; Neilly – Co. Antrim & USA; McCurdy – Co. Antrim; Nixon – Co. Cavan, Co. Donegal, Canada & USA; Ryan & Noble – Co. Sligo


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Re: McGrory Pettigo, Donegal to Camlough, Armagh
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 05 November 20 21:23 GMT (UK) »
Oh wow, Thank you so much.
I've even cleared up when and where my Grandfather Thomas was born.
I thought it was 1904, but it's actually 1905
I see McGarrity is spelt McGaherty on John's birth, is this a mistake, or is this a reason I can't find any records for Cassie?
McGrorey, Loughrey, Briggs, Gribbin, Ferguson, Hunt(O)Connor(s), Danehy, Young, McGarrity, Doran, Jones, Vernon, Oakes, Williams, Alexander, Ross, O'Niel, McMullan, Lightbowne, Siddorn, Ryecroft, Bellowhouse, Walker, Gourley, Fagan, Havelin, Campbell, Smith, Thompson, Black, McCallum, Wilson, Loudon.

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Re: McGrory Pettigo, Donegal to Camlough, Armagh
« Reply #13 on: Friday 06 November 20 09:42 GMT (UK) »
I see McGarrity is spelt McGaherty on John's birth, is this a mistake, or is this a reason I can't find any records for Cassie?

When John was born, his father registered the birth and probably spoke with a mixture of Donegal and Tyrone accents. No doubt, the registrar (living near Newry) didn't fully understand his accent, hence McGaherty.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1905/01777/1698826.pdf

When Thomas was born in 1905 (at Bessbrook), it was his mother Catherine who registered the birth and she probably spoke with a different Tyrone accent (hence her maiden name McGarrity). The registrar was still the same person- Benjamin A Palmer (a physician and surgeon) and registrar for Mullaghglass R.D.

Note that John's occupation was now farm labourer.

KG

Edited to add:
As an aside.... Death of Benjamin Armstrong Palmer 1919
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1919/05146/4418413.pdf
Researching: Cuthbertson – Co. Derry, Scotland & Australia; Hunter – Co. Derry; Jackson – Co. Derry, Scotland & Canada; Scott – Co. Derry; Neilly – Co. Antrim & USA; McCurdy – Co. Antrim; Nixon – Co. Cavan, Co. Donegal, Canada & USA; Ryan & Noble – Co. Sligo

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Re: McGrory Pettigo, Donegal to Camlough, Armagh
« Reply #14 on: Friday 06 November 20 15:11 GMT (UK) »
Apart from your GF Thomas born 1905, there were five more brothers born up to 1912.
Hugh 1902, Daniel 1904, Patrick 1907, William 1909 and Francis 1912.

MMN McGaherty, McGarty and McGarrety.

https://www.rootschat.com/links/01q0b/

KG

Edited to add:
Here they are in 1911, still in Frederick Street, Bessbrook. (at reply #6)
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Armagh/Camlough/Frederick_Street/306583/

Researching: Cuthbertson – Co. Derry, Scotland & Australia; Hunter – Co. Derry; Jackson – Co. Derry, Scotland & Canada; Scott – Co. Derry; Neilly – Co. Antrim & USA; McCurdy – Co. Antrim; Nixon – Co. Cavan, Co. Donegal, Canada & USA; Ryan & Noble – Co. Sligo

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Re: McGrory Pettigo, Donegal to Camlough, Armagh
« Reply #15 on: Friday 06 November 20 15:21 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
I'm just having a good search now on the site. I know my Granddad had a lot of siblings, several of them died. It's good to know the names of them.

I've found the births of several of their cousins, (John's brothers, James and Daniel's children to wives Mary Corrigan and Isabella Wakelem?) with various family members present in Sheridan and in Bessbrook.

It's interesting that some of the family also lived on Fountain street which by looking on the map you sent, it's very close to Frederick street. My father used to visit his cousins in Charlemont Square in the fifties, which is right next to Frederick street.

I see Benjamin Palmer was a very busy man and he died of cardiac arrest!!

Hopefully if I keep going sideways I might find a clue to help me back further.

Thanks for your help I really appreciate it.

 
McGrorey, Loughrey, Briggs, Gribbin, Ferguson, Hunt(O)Connor(s), Danehy, Young, McGarrity, Doran, Jones, Vernon, Oakes, Williams, Alexander, Ross, O'Niel, McMullan, Lightbowne, Siddorn, Ryecroft, Bellowhouse, Walker, Gourley, Fagan, Havelin, Campbell, Smith, Thompson, Black, McCallum, Wilson, Loudon.

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Re: McGrory Pettigo, Donegal to Camlough, Armagh
« Reply #16 on: Friday 06 November 20 19:10 GMT (UK) »
Yes thank you I did already have that record. The family moved to Scotland before the First World War.

I have just found a death record for a John McGrory in 1880, aged 95 in Pettigo, profession a farmer.
What are the chances of him being a Grandfather to my Great Grandfather John McGrory born in Pettigo in 1872?
McGrorey, Loughrey, Briggs, Gribbin, Ferguson, Hunt(O)Connor(s), Danehy, Young, McGarrity, Doran, Jones, Vernon, Oakes, Williams, Alexander, Ross, O'Niel, McMullan, Lightbowne, Siddorn, Ryecroft, Bellowhouse, Walker, Gourley, Fagan, Havelin, Campbell, Smith, Thompson, Black, McCallum, Wilson, Loudon.