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Re: What exactly did an Ayah do
« Reply #28 on: Friday 06 November 20 11:32 GMT (UK) »
That's an amazingly sad report Tug
& What an impossible task to identify the abandoned Ayahs

I hope the Drummond's were punished in some way .what a horrible thing to do to someone who had cared for your babies
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Re: What exactly did an Ayah do
« Reply #29 on: Sunday 08 November 20 15:55 GMT (UK) »
I have posted a photo of three younger Packe children in 1921

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=839596.msg7054494#msg7054494


Whether baby is in the arms of a mature indian Ayah or a younger lady I cant tell

 can you  zoom in..?

Rootschat wont let me post same photo twice       Ive already tried on photo enhancement board
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Re: What exactly did an Ayah do
« Reply #30 on: Monday 09 November 20 00:54 GMT (UK) »
Looking at the 1911 census I would say Sarah's surname is ARETRIOM.  This is how FindMyPast have transcribed it

It's worth noting that much of the transcription for this record on Ancestry is wrong!
MOXHAM/MOXAM - Wiltshire & Surrey
SKEATS - Surrey
BRETT - Kent & County Durham
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SWINBANK - anywhere

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Re: What exactly did an Ayah do
« Reply #31 on: Wednesday 11 November 20 11:48 GMT (UK) »
I learned the word from my mother and she would pronounce it - Eye yah. I believe that it comes from Hindi, which is an oral language only. Because of the lack of being pegged to the written word, it tends to evolve in any direction that it is needed. It is the Pigeon English of the Indian sub-continent. 

Not true at all.  Hindi as a written language goes back hundreds of years, in Devanagari script in India and in Muslim areas including Pakistan in Arabic script.  Other main languages like Bengali or Tamil also have very long written records.  But it may be true of more local languages that they were originally oral only.

My Mum was born in India and had an Ayah.
Same here.  My grandfather was a Consulting Engineer and probably most of the Indian engineers he worked with were trained in English so he didn't have to learn too much of the local language(s).

I asked mum once, did she ever learn any Tamil?  She said no, but she did learn some Hindi due to spending all day with the ayah.

Once the family was out in the car and got lost between villages.  Father asked someone for directions but he wasn't sure he understood the reply.  My mum who must have been no more than six, took control and said No Daddy he said go along here and turn right and ...

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Re: What exactly did an Ayah do
« Reply #32 on: Saturday 14 November 20 22:39 GMT (UK) »
Thats a lovely story john
Quite typical of families who lived in other countries .

The children always pick up the language quicker .

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Re: What exactly did an Ayah do
« Reply #33 on: Thursday 11 April 24 01:45 BST (UK) »
Update

I never did manage to find anything else about Sarah the ayah to colonel packes children
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Re: What exactly did an Ayah do
« Reply #34 on: Thursday 11 April 24 08:40 BST (UK) »
I can vaguely recall Ayahs and doby from my brief spell in Kenya back in the early 1950s. And on return to England always greeted my parents with "Jambo". (hello).
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Re: What exactly did an Ayah do
« Reply #35 on: Thursday 11 April 24 08:50 BST (UK) »
Jambo is Swahili for hello .

What did the Indian Ayah s wear
If they came to England ?
I expect they felt the  cold after India or Kenya

This is a nanny in 1922

Could be Sarah I suppose but she would have been ages 60

I've not seen 1921 census

Arthur Packe  died before this photo 1920 age 9
 . Baby Margaret died in 2015

Same house as Sarah was ayah
11 years earlier to  the older siblings of these children .
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