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John Cross
« on: Saturday 07 November 20 01:09 GMT (UK) »
Hello all, searching for the marriage of John Cross Somerset, he married a Elizabeth ? their daughter Ann Cross bap.16/7/1779 married a Robert Hockey in 12/12/1808 lic. Horsington, tried searching through the usual web pages and freereg. :-[


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Re: John Cross
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 07 November 20 09:42 GMT (UK) »
One possibility...

John Cross, bachelor, of Wincanton, married Betty Parsons, spinster, 1765, Charlton Musgrove, as per Somerset Marriage Index.

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Re: John Cross
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 07 November 20 10:26 GMT (UK) »
Whilst the two places are adjacent, the baptism of the second Ann makes the marriage unlikely.

John & Elizabeth

Baptism Charlton Musgrove

John Cross  & Sarah Cross 22 Apr 1771
Ann Cross 12 Jan 1792
Charles Cross 16 Dec 1792
Charlotte Cross 19 Apr 1795
George Cross 22 Mar 1797
Mary Cross 9 Mar 1800

Baptisms Wincanton

Elizabeth Cross 10 Jul 1774
Elizabeth Cross 7 Apr 1776
Anna Cross 16 Jul 1779
Elizabeth Cross 30 Nov 1783
Elizabeth Cross  26 Jan 1787

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Re: John Cross
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 07 November 20 21:13 GMT (UK) »
Morning Colc thanks for your reply, reading below does this mean that John Cross is married twice or different couples, need to find the marriage to Elizabeth, I will try again thanks for your help. :-[

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Re: John Cross
« Reply #4 on: Monday 09 November 20 11:20 GMT (UK) »
As the baptisms overlap, it is two couples.

The marriage posted by Jo, 8 Feb 1765 at Charlton Musgrove John Cross to Betty Barsons,
Banns were also read at Stoke Trister, Johnís parish, Betty is noted as Elizth Parsons. Both signed.

Your John & Elizabeth were witnesses at their daughter Annís marriage, both signed and they did not match the above.

No trace of a marriage but they may have had a  Son George in 1773, he died same year, all of their daughters Elizabeth did not survive.


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Re: John Cross
« Reply #5 on: Monday 09 November 20 21:27 GMT (UK) »
Hello ColC thanks for your help this family is more confusing that another ancestor I am searching for. :-[ I searched all yesterday for the marriage of John and Elizabeth on both of the Web pages. :-\ Perhaps Betty died and then he married Elizabeth or maybe not. :-\


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Re: John Cross
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 10 November 20 09:00 GMT (UK) »

The marriage posted by Jo, 8 Feb 1765 at Charlton Musgrove John Cross to Betty Barsons,
Banns were also read at Stoke Trister, Johnís parish, Betty is noted as Elizth Parsons. Both signed.

Colin

Hi Janet,

As stated by Colin, Betty Parsons and Elizabeth Parsons are the same person.

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Re: John Cross
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 10 November 20 09:15 GMT (UK) »
The key point here is that there were two John's, you may have missed my comment on the signatures.

"Banns were also read at Stoke Trister, Johnís parish, Betty is noted as Elizth Parsons. Both signed.

Your John & Elizabeth were witnesses at their daughter Annís marriage, both signed and they did not match the above"

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Clarke, Trickett, Orton, Lawless, Norton, Detheridge, Kirby, Goodfellow, Wagstaff, Lowe, etc.

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Re: John Cross
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 10 November 20 09:19 GMT (UK) »
Hi Janet,

Family search has a large number of possibilities ....
https://www.familysearch.org/search/record/results?q.givenName=John&q.surname=Cross&q.marriageLikePlace=Somerset&q.marriageLikeDate.from=1760&q.marriageLikeDate.to=1790&q.spouseGivenName=Elizabeth&f.recordCountry=England&count=20&offset=0&m.defaultFacets=on&m.queryRequireDefault=on&m.facetNestCollectionInCategory=on

It might be a long job of checking as many original records as possible against the witness signatures at Annís marriage, you could likely rule out those that signed with a mark.

Have you checked for wills for family members? Any records showing Johnís occupation? Do you have any information on siblings?

Sometimes itís a long and slow slog, but the people on here are a great help.

Good luck,

Jo  :)
Puplett, Sonnex, Lott, Dunkiss, Hart - London area.
Hudson, Jenner, Dedman - Sussex
Leach, Hopkins, Saunders - Wales
Leach, Lipscombe - Hampshire
Sipthorpe - Lancashire
Walters - Cornawall & Australia
Kingshott, Matheson, Pitt, McDonald, Keogh - Australia.