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Catholic marriage certificate
« on: Wednesday 11 November 20 17:29 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Could someone please give me a hand reading this..  ???

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Re: Catholic marriage certificate
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 11 November 20 17:35 GMT (UK) »
I think I have this right

The Marriage was on the 4th July 1868 between
Michael Bergen of Low Downs, son of ? Darbi and Elizabeth [Bergen] married to Bridget Burns, daughter of John & Catherine Devlin.

Witnesses, Martin Gorham and Maria Tymon.

Officiating priest was Joseph Aloysius Browne.

I'm uncertain of the meaning of (ib) after the bride's name.
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Re: Catholic marriage certificate
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 11 November 20 17:37 GMT (UK) »
I'm uncertain of the meaning of (ib) after the bride's name.

Just remembered, it's an abbreviation of 'ibidem' which means 'in the same place', i.e. she was also from Low Downs.
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Re: Catholic marriage certificate
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 11 November 20 18:45 GMT (UK) »
I think I have this right

The Marriage was on the 4th July 1868 between
Michael Bergen of Low Downs, son of ? Darbi and Elizabeth [Bergen] married to Bridget Burns, daughter of John & Catherine Devlin.

Witnesses, Martin Gorham and Maria Tymon.

Officiating priest was Joseph Aloysius Browne.

I'm uncertain of the meaning of (ib) after the bride's name.
Thank you very much, I assume that means Michael was from County Down, Ireland?

I found a census where Bridget has put her birthplace as County Armagh but looks like they're right next to each other so could make sense.

Her name shows as Burns but parents Devlin.. Why do you think this would be?

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Re: Catholic marriage certificate
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 11 November 20 18:52 GMT (UK) »
Thank you very much, I assume that means Michael was from County Down, Ireland?

No, it's where he was living at the time. Low Downs was a place in County Durham.
https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=16&lat=54.83249&lon=-1.44745&layers=6&right=BingHyb
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Re: Catholic marriage certificate
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 11 November 20 18:57 GMT (UK) »
Thank you very much, I assume that means Michael was from County Down, Ireland?

No, it's where he was living at the time. Low Downs was a place in County Durham.
https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=16&lat=54.83249&lon=-1.44745&layers=6&right=BingHyb
Ah. Thank you

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Re: Catholic marriage certificate
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 11 November 20 19:57 GMT (UK) »
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Her name shows as Burns but parents Devlin.. Why do you think this would be?

Presumably she’d been married previously. Have you got the civil marriage certificate, which would show if she was a widow?
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« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 11 November 20 20:40 GMT (UK) »
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Her name shows as Burns but parents Devlin.. Why do you think this would be?

Presumably she’d been married previously. Have you got the civil marriage certificate, which would show if she was a widow?
Unfortunately that's all I have, someone else has mentioned that Burns might have been her dad's surname but her mum remarried to Devlin, so could be her step father.  ???

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Re: Catholic marriage certificate
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 11 November 20 20:49 GMT (UK) »
Did they have children?
GRO records would show her surname.
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