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Re: Birth Augustus theophrutus Wynne Jones
« Reply #18 on: Friday 13 November 20 13:41 GMT (UK) »
Do you have the older children’s baptisms?

I have seen them. Thanks
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Re: Birth Augustus theophrutus Wynne Jones
« Reply #19 on: Friday 13 November 20 15:58 GMT (UK) »
What have you found on 1861 census for this family, that should be the last sighting

Remember not all babies were registered prior to 1875

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Granath Sweden and London
Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
Coveney Kent Lambeth
Sondes kent and London

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Re: Birth Augustus theophrutus Wynne Jones
« Reply #20 on: Friday 13 November 20 16:21 GMT (UK) »
I have found them on 1861, I am wondering if any of these children were registered, unless I can be corrected I cannot find a registration for any of the children on 1861

Also found them 1851 other than that I am flummoxed, to cross match Jones to MMN Wynne there are so many

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Granath Sweden and London
Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
Coveney Kent Lambeth
Sondes kent and London

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Re: Birth Augustus theophrutus Wynne Jones
« Reply #21 on: Friday 13 November 20 16:42 GMT (UK) »
LM,
In 1861 there is Augustus 3 yrs.
Edward Thomas 12 yrs b 1849 Abergavenny mmn Wynn
Sarah 24 yrs b USA

1851
Sarah 17yrs
David 10 yrs - birth David Pritchard Jones b 1841 Abergavenny with mmn  Wynne

I can’t see any others in between these births
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Re: Birth Augustus theophrutus Wynne Jones
« Reply #22 on: Friday 13 November 20 17:04 GMT (UK) »
Hi all thank you very much for helping. A coup,e of children were buried in same grave as Edward and Margaret. 
I presume John Methusalem wasn’t registered. We know about him because he is on the grave stone and presume he died before registration. 

A couple of children were baptised on the same date. Joanna Marie and Margaret avarina,
 7/10/1838. One was born in 1838 and the other in 1836.there doesn’t seem to be any pattern.
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Re: Birth Augustus theophrutus Wynne Jones
« Reply #23 on: Friday 13 November 20 17:26 GMT (UK) »
I saw the gravestone picture in a published tree with those names and the baptism of Margaret Avarina.
That tree has John Methusalem Jones b July 1853, Crickhowell which seems wrong.
The death date is given as 29th October 1854, Merthyr Tydfil.
There is a death for Methusalem Jones in M T which would fit.

The gravestone looks like October (not sure re year) and 1 month  :-\

It’s hard, isn’t it. Maybe they didn’t register all their children.
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Re: Birth Augustus theophrutus Wynne Jones
« Reply #24 on: Saturday 14 November 20 19:28 GMT (UK) »
Hi Heywood
Thanks for looking everywhere. It’s not easy. The picture of the gravestone was taken by a relation of my family and is in a churchyard St Sannan’s local to her in the area where they all lived. We are both lost in finding Augustus birth details when his move to Swansea and his children etc is well documented. I think he wasn’t registered because he died presumable when a baby.

Thank you for looking

Gill

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Re: Birth Augustus theophrutus Wynne Jones
« Reply #25 on: Sunday 15 November 20 01:42 GMT (UK) »
...there doesn’t seem to be any pattern.

There IS a pattern of several of their children not being registered.  Perhaps the Registrar in their district was not as competent as they should have been.

Debra  :)