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Re: Barwell Annie nee Joyce
« Reply #54 on: Friday 20 November 20 02:58 GMT (UK) »
Just to expand on your link @ reply #49 Spades......


NZ Militia, Volunteers and Armed Constabulary of New Zealand 1863-1871
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Armed Constabulary/Militia   Militia
Name   JOYCE, William
Place of birth   Carnily ?
Tribe/County/Country   Down
Year of birth   1835
Regiment no.   481
Militia/Volunteers   3rd Waikato Regiment(Commissariat Transport Corps)
Service commenced   11.10.1863
Subsequent service   1st Division Armed Constabulary
Land grants   Cambridge West 132
Joined at   Auckland
Previous service   Mauku Forest Rifle
Ship of arrival   Ganges '63
Record ID   8890
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NZ Militia, Volunteers and Armed Constabulary of New Zealand 1863-1871
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Armed Constabulary/Militia   Armed Constabulary
Name   JOYCE, William George
Place of birth   Cornily
Tribe/County/Country   Down
Year of birth   c.1839
Armed Constabulary Division   1
Service commenced   8.12.1868
Additional career note   Armed Constabulary Auckland Police
Joined at   Melbourne
Previous service   Mauku Forest Rifle Volunteers 3rd Waikato Regiment Commissariat Transport Corps
Former occupation   Farmer
Ship of arrival   Gottenberg 1868
Record ID   1430


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HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

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Re: Barwell Annie nee Joyce
« Reply #55 on: Friday 20 November 20 07:52 GMT (UK) »
Hi Mona Lisa,

Thanks Minniehaha for posting the two transcriptions.

I should perhaps explain the context of the entries above based on my knowledge.

William JOYCE emigrated alone from London to Auckland, NZ per Ganges, arriving on 12 October 1863.
http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~shipstonz/genealogy/PassLists/ganges1863.html

My interpretation of the first record above is that William immediately enlisted (the record states 11 October 1863 (sic), so one record is incorrect) in the Mauku Rifles and saw action at Titi Hill-Mauku within two weeks of arriving! After this he joined the 3rd Waikato Regiment (a mumber of men were seconded from this unit to the Commissariat Transport Corps to assist with logistics/supply). He was subsequently awarded a Land Grant at Cambridge.

He then went 'over the ditch', as we say here, to Australia, because that second record shows that in December 1868 he attested for the New Zealand Armed Constabulary at Melbourne and then travelled to New Zealand (with other recruits) per Gothenburg.

He subsequently served with the Auckland Police.

As it happens, I have transcribed the passenger list of the Gothenburg and have it here.

William JOYCE attested for the Armed Constabulary on 26 December 1868 at Melbourne. He was a farmer born at Co. Armagh, aged 29 and 5' 10" in height. He served in the 3rd Waikato Regiment from 1863-1866 inclusive (from my wider reading taking their discharge after three years was common and I suspect that it signalled the end of their contracted period of service).

See next post for some background information which will supply some context to his story.








ELLERKER - Beverley ERY ENG
HEALEY - IRL?
MURDOCH - Wigtownshire SCT, Otago and Westland NZ
PALING - Nottinghamshire ENG
RILEY - Flamborough; Cottingham; South Dalton ERY, Manitoba CAN, & London ENG
STURTON - Arnold, Nottinghamshire ENG
SUTTRON - All, NRY & DUR ENG
TAYLOR - London ENG
TYLER - London ENG
TERNAN/TIERNAN - Dublin IRL

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Re: Barwell Annie nee Joyce
« Reply #56 on: Friday 20 November 20 07:59 GMT (UK) »
The following is taken from my draft instruction sheet for the index mentioned above. I have included some reference material. Those highlighted in bold would be of most value to your research:

"Following the disastrous defeat of colonial forces at Te Ngutu o te Manu in September 1868 and the subsequent advance of Titokowaru’s forces into the southern Taranaki, the New Zealand Government responded by sending Captain STACK to Melbourne with a brief to recruit 200 men for service in the Armed Constabulary. During December 1868 and January 1869 newly-attested recruits were dispatched to Wellington on board commercial steamers plying the regular Melbourne-New Zealand route.

The Gothenburg was the fourth ship to transport a draft of Armed Constabulary recruits from Melbourne. The vessels in order of departure were:

Alhambra - Departed Melbourne 9 December 1868 with 99 recruits, (plus another 30 recruited at Hokitika) via Hokitika, Greymouth and Nelson, arrived Wellington 18 December 1868.

Otago- Departed Hobson’s Bay 12 December 1868 for Wellington via Bluff, Port Chalmers and Lyttelton with passengers with 41 recruits, arrived Wellington 24 December 1868. Recruits taken on to Wanganui by ss Wanganui.

Rangitoto - Departed 19 December 1868 for Wellington via Hokitika and Greymouth with passengers and 30 recruits. Arrived Wellington 27 December 1868.

Gothenburg - Departed 26 December 1868 for Wellington via Bluff, Port Chalmers and Lyttelton with passengers and 19 recruits. Arrived Wellington 6 January 1869.

Omeo - Departed Melbourne 5 January 1869 for Wellington via Bluff, Port Chalmers and Lyttelton with passengers and 16 recruits. Arrived Wellington 17 January 1869. Recruits taken on to Napier by the Sturt."

Further reading:

Belich, J. (1993). I shall not die. Titokowaru’s war. New Zealand 1868-1869. Bridget William Books.

Glen, F. (2011). Australians at war in New Zealand. Willsonscott Publishing.

Hopkins-Weise, J.E. (2007). Blood Brothers: The ANZAC Genesis. Penguin.

Hughes, H. & Hughes, L. (1988). Discharged in New Zealand. Soldiers of the Imperial Foot Regiments who took their discharge in New Zealand 1840-1870. New Zealand Society of Genealogists. Book and CD-ROM.

Knight, I. (2013). The New Zealand Wars 1820-72. Osprey Publishing. Includes colour plates of uniform.

Maxwell, P. (2000). Frontier. The Battle for the North Island of New Zealand 1860-1872. Celebrity Books.

Nominal and descriptive rolls, 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th Waikato Regiments, 1863-1867/ [compiled by] Jeni Palmer.

Ryan, T. & Parham, B. (2002). The Colonial New Zealand Wars. 2nd ed. Grantham House.

Stowers, R. (1996). Forest Rangers. Richard Stowers.

Stowers, R. (2010). New Zealand Medal to Colonials. 10th ed. Richard Stowers.

Cambridge Museum. Armed Constabulary Act.
http://cambridgemuseum.org.nz/armed-constabulary-act/

Cambridge Museum. Cambridge People. Biographies.
http://cambridgemuseum.org.nz/cambridge-people/biographies/

Early New Zealand Books.
http://www.enzb.auckland.ac.nz/

New Zealand Militia, Volunteers and Armed Constabulary 1863–1871.
http://www.aucklandcity.govt.nz/dbtw-wpd/armedconstab/armedconstabulary.html

Nominal & Descriptive Roll of the Melbourne Contingent Taranaki Military Settlers.
http://www.nzpictures.co.nz/pandoraresearchANZ-AD31-8-8-2.pdf

Papers Past
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/

Passengers in History
http://passengersinhistory.sa.gov.au/

McLellan, J.M. (2017). Soldiers & Colonists. Imperial Soldiers as Settlers in Nineteenth-Century New Zealand.
http://researcharchive.vuw.ac.nz/xmlui/bitstream/handle/10063/6740/thesis_access.pdf

Soldiers of Empire. Garrison & Empire in the 19th Century.
http://www.soldiersofempire.nz/
ELLERKER - Beverley ERY ENG
HEALEY - IRL?
MURDOCH - Wigtownshire SCT, Otago and Westland NZ
PALING - Nottinghamshire ENG
RILEY - Flamborough; Cottingham; South Dalton ERY, Manitoba CAN, & London ENG
STURTON - Arnold, Nottinghamshire ENG
SUTTRON - All, NRY & DUR ENG
TAYLOR - London ENG
TYLER - London ENG
TERNAN/TIERNAN - Dublin IRL

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Re: Barwell Annie nee Joyce
« Reply #57 on: Friday 20 November 20 08:47 GMT (UK) »
The book Blood Brothers is online as an ebook.
https://books.google.co.nz/books/about/Blood_Brothers.html?id=NebamZsjn0kC&redir_esc=y

An excellent read for anyone researching Australian recruitment for the Maori War of the 1860's, recognizing that many were from other countries or had previously been in New Zealand.

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ELLERKER - Beverley ERY ENG
HEALEY - IRL?
MURDOCH - Wigtownshire SCT, Otago and Westland NZ
PALING - Nottinghamshire ENG
RILEY - Flamborough; Cottingham; South Dalton ERY, Manitoba CAN, & London ENG
STURTON - Arnold, Nottinghamshire ENG
SUTTRON - All, NRY & DUR ENG
TAYLOR - London ENG
TYLER - London ENG
TERNAN/TIERNAN - Dublin IRL


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Re: Barwell Annie nee Joyce
« Reply #58 on: Friday 20 November 20 20:00 GMT (UK) »
What a comprehensive list.  Thanks for sharing SPADES.

Alan.
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Re: Barwell Annie nee Joyce
« Reply #59 on: Friday 20 November 20 20:25 GMT (UK) »
outstanding research... spades....I am very appreciative of your time and effort.

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Re: Barwell Annie nee Joyce
« Reply #60 on: Friday 20 November 20 20:31 GMT (UK) »
minniehaha...a big thank you as well; in continuing to add to my Constable William Joyce's story.

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Re: Barwell Annie nee Joyce
« Reply #61 on: Friday 20 November 20 21:41 GMT (UK) »
minniehaha...a big thank you as well; in continuing to add to my Constable William Joyce's story.


Actually I was just opening up the link Spades put up at reply #49. He found it, not me..  ;D


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HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

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Re: Barwell Annie nee Joyce
« Reply #62 on: Friday 20 November 20 22:22 GMT (UK) »
EDIT............ I have a long standing interest of any Joyce Family especially of Drumlin Hill.........
Appreciate the quality and kindliness of the Rootchat forum

Hello from a Waikato researcher.

While JOYCE is not one of the early settler families that I have looked into, I'm aware that it is a surname that has been in these parts, for a long time. Should you wish to delve deeper, you will find interments in the Hautapu Cemetery [out in the Waipa County a few miles, but the Cambridge Cemetery, since the 1860's] and the Hamilton City cemeteries data bases.

As George appears as a middle name, there is a Peter George JOYCE d. 9/1/1911; 27 years, interment at Hautapu Cemetery.

Alan.
Early Settlers & Heritage. Family History.