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Re: Christian Chalmers m William Finnie
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 18 November 20 17:53 GMT (UK) »
Moo, might be an idea to review how you got to the toll keeper Robert Chalmers perhaps. What makes you think that it could be her father?

To be honest, I would be more inclined to think that he was already deceased as indicated on that 1839 parish register entry...

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Re: Christian Chalmers m William Finnie
« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 18 November 20 18:16 GMT (UK) »
There are a few marriages showing on the St Cuthbert's parish registers which show father as a Robert Chalmers:

Mary 1827 www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XYWC-5LL
Elizabeth 1834 www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XY95-LXV
Janet Robb 1837 www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XY9T-LHM

Not saying they are necessarily connected, but adding here for consideration.

See from 1851, Christian is showing as born c. 1801 in Dalmeny, West Lothian.

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Re: Christian Chalmers m William Finnie
« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 18 November 20 18:20 GMT (UK) »
Hello Monical

The reason I feel sure about the Toll Keeper is that 3 of his children have it listed as his occupation on their death certificates.
I have found all the births for the children but none of them mention his occupation.

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Re: Christian Chalmers m William Finnie
« Reply #21 on: Wednesday 18 November 20 18:23 GMT (UK) »
Is it this birth or christening that you found for her?:

CHRISTIAN CHALMERS
ROBERT CHALMERS/CHRISTIAN BLACK
20/03/1798
665/20 222
Dalmeny

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Re: Christian Chalmers m William Finnie
« Reply #22 on: Wednesday 18 November 20 18:33 GMT (UK) »
Hi MonicaL

No the birth I found

Christian Chalmers daughter of Robert Chalmers and Janet Bartholomew  22 Apr 1789 Currie.
It did state " In then Leith"


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Re: Christian Chalmers m William Finnie
« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 18 November 20 18:48 GMT (UK) »
Mmmm...that doesn't seem to match the details on her 1851 entry  :-\

William Finnie 44 Blacksmith b. Uphall
Christian Finnie 50 Blacksmith's Wife b. Dalmeny

Address: Uphall Village

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Re: Christian Chalmers m William Finnie
« Reply #24 on: Wednesday 18 November 20 18:53 GMT (UK) »
I will see if I can check the 1841 Census again and see what it says.
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Re: Christian Chalmers m William Finnie
« Reply #25 on: Wednesday 18 November 20 19:01 GMT (UK) »
I'm confused. If you are looking for a baptism of Christian Chalmers, and you don't know who her parents were, how do you know that the children of Robert Chalmers whose death certificates you have found were her siblings? Because if they were her siblings the death certificates would have told you who her parents were. From these death certificates, what was the name of the wife of Robert Chalmers, tollkeeper?

I think there may be two Robert Chalmers here, one of whom was a tollkeeper and the other a farm servant who had died before 1839.

Timeline
About 1800 Birth of Christian Chalmers or Finnie in Dalmeny, West Lothian
Before 1939 Death of Robert Chalmers
1839 William Finnie and Christian Chalmers marry. Marriage is recorded in both Edinburgh and Uphall
1841 William and Christian Chalmers or Finnie, 35 (so born 1801/6), born West Lothian in census in Uphall
1841 Christian Finnie, 42 (so born 1798/9), born Midlothian, in census in Dalkeith with (son?) Peter and (daughter?) Jessie. Therefore these are two totally different Christian Finnies
1851 William and Christina Chalmers or Finnie, 50 (so born 1800/1), born Dalmeny, in census in Uphall
1851 Christian Chalmers, 43 (so born 1797/8), in census in Rose Street, Edinburgh with husband David Chalmers. Therefore these are two different Christian Chalmers
1851 Christian Chalmers (or Finnie?) dies in Uphall
1853 William Finnie marries Christian Mackenzie

Never trust anything you find online (especially submitted trees and transcriptions on Ancestry, MyHeritage, FindMyPast and other commercial web sites) unless it's an image of an original document - and even then be wary because errors can and do occur.

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Re: Christian Chalmers m William Finnie
« Reply #26 on: Wednesday 18 November 20 19:05 GMT (UK) »
Hi Forfarian

I do know who her parents and siblings were, I found all the documents on SP, I am looking for confirmation of her marriage and her death. I found a death for a Christian Chalmers or Finnie in 1851, and was trying to establish if she is mine.  ;D

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