Beginner looking for some help for my Fraser Ancestors

[Neale1961]

Link to marriage
https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/record-results?search_type=people&event=M&record_type%5B0%5D=opr_marriages&church_type=Old%20Parish%20Registers&dl_cat=church&dl_rec=church-banns-marriages&surname=Kirk&surname_so=exact&forename=Helen&forename_so=starts&spouse_name_so=exact&from_year=1811&to_year=1811&record=Church%20of%20Scotland%20%28old%20parish%20registers%29%20Roman%20Catholic%20Church%20Other%20churches

[Neale1961]

Death- burial for Helen Kirkland in 1836, age 48.
https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/record-results?search_type=people&event=D&record_type%5B0%5D=opr_deaths&church_type=Old%20Parish%20Registers&dl_cat=church&dl_rec=church-deaths-burials&surname=Kirk%2A&surname_so=wild&forename=Helen&forename_so=starts&parent_names_so=starts&from_year=1836&to_year=1836&county=ANGUS&record=Church%20of%20Scotland%20%28old%20parish%20registers%29%20Roman%20Catholic%20Church%20Other%20churches

This might be her birth. No way to be sure.
https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/record-results?search_type=people&event=%28B%20OR%20C%20OR%20S%29&record_type%5B0%5D=opr_births&church_type=Old%20Parish%20Registers&dl_cat=church&dl_rec=church-births-baptisms&surname=Kirk%2A&surname_so=wild&forename=Helen&forename_so=starts&from_year=1787&to_year=1787&parent_names_so=exact&parent_name_two_so=exact&county=ANGUS&record=Church%20of%20Scotland%20%28old%20parish%20registers%29%20Roman%20Catholic%20Church%20Other%20churches

[HannahB92]

I don't know how you found them but thanks so much! That's a huge help for me cause i was coming up blank, no idea what i'm doing wrong but sometimes SP just doesn't like me!

[Kiltaglassan]

Link to marriage
https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/record-results?search_type=people&event=M&record_type%5B0%5D=opr_marriages&church_type=Old%20Parish%20Registers&dl_cat=church&dl_rec=church-banns-marriages&surname=Kirk&surname_so=exact&forename=Helen&forename_so=starts&spouse_name_so=exact&from_year=1811&to_year=1811&record=Church%20of%20Scotland%20%28old%20parish%20registers%29%20Roman%20Catholic%20Church%20Other%20churches

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[Neale1961]

What is the occupation/ profession given for Alexander Frazer on his marriage and on his son’s death?

[HannahB92]

Profession is down as stone mason but it also says journeyman

[Forfarian]

Profession is down as stone mason but it also says journeyman

Journeyman isn't an occupation as such.

It means that he had completed his apprenticeship and was a qualified stone mason, but was employed. Originally journeymen were employed by the day, and the word has nothing to do with travelling, but is from the French journιe, meaning a day's duration.

Once a man had served as a journeyman and gained enough experience, he could go on to become a master, train apprentices and employ journeymen.

[Neale1961]

I was thinking Alexander might well be a mason, like his son. Masonry was a highly skilled trade, and in my experience was often passed through the family (sons) for a number of generations.
I think this is probably your Alexander in the 1841 census
 https://www.freecen.org.uk/search_records/5a14107cf4040b9d6ef69e28/alexander-fraser-1841-angus-forfarshire-dundee-1791-?locale=en

1841 census: Georges Place, Union Street, Dundee
•   Alexander Fraser, M. age 50; Mason, born outside Angus
•   Isabella Fraser, F. age 20, Born Angus
•   Helen Fraser, F. age 15, Powerloom weaver (Linen); Born Angus
These are possibly daughters of Alexander. Helen and Isabella are family names.
As the ages were rounded down to the nearest 5, Alexander’s real age might between 50-54. This would put his date of birth somewhere close to his deceased wife Helen Kirkland – about 1788. It also puts his birth in another county. Does it say on his marriage record of 1811 what town or Parish he was from?

[Neale1961]

Moving on to the 1851 Census we find Alexander living with his daughter Helen/ Ellen in Glasgow. https://www.freecen.org.uk/search_records/5a1500d6f4040b9d6e0aaf05/alexander-fraser-1851-lanarkshire-glasgow-1788-?locale=en
1851 census: 78 McAlpine St, Glasgow
•   Robert McIntosh, head, 23 Blacksmith, born Bernethy, PER
•   Ellen McIntosh, wife, 24, born Dundee
•   Alexander Fraser, father-in-law, 63, Mason, born Nairn

This is the marriage of Helen/ Ellen to Robert McIntosh, which confirms we are on the correct trail.
MCINTOSH   ROBERT   HELEN FRAZER   
10/08/1849   282/    230 287   Dundee

Here is a possible birth for Alexander. This is only speculation and you need more confirmation.
FRASER   ALEXANDER   M   21/04/1789   123/    30 154   Nairn
  Parents - ALEXR. FRASER/JANE FRASER   

Did Alexander die between 1851 and 1855 or was he still alive after 1855 and can we find a death certificate for him??
I did not find a burial record for him 1851-1855, but that does not confirm anything really.

Can you find him in the 1861 census? He does not seem to be in Dundee. Is this him in Lanarkshire in 1861 – can you find a transcript or download it from SP. If it is our man, he seems to be there still in 1871. What does the record for 1871 give?

FRASER   ALEXANDER   1861 census   M   72   648/ 14/ 2   Lanark   Lanark
FRASER   ALEXANDER   1871 census   M   83   648/ 10/ 8   Lanark   Lanark

There are a couple of possible deaths depending on what you find in census records. I think the 1871 death in Lanark looks promising.

FRASER   ALEXANDER   85   -----   
1871   648/ 140   Lanark

OR
FRASER   ALEXANDER   76   -----   
1863   282/1 579   Dundee First District