Sidney and Margaret JOLLEY - 1871 Census Lookup

[Rowan Tree]

Hi 

I'm really struggling to find Sidney, Margaret and John JOLLEY on the 1871 census and wondered if anyone could help? Here is some information about the JOLLEY family;

Sidney JOLLEY born c. 1844 in Southport
Margaret (sidney's wife) nee MORAN born c. 1842 in Ireland
John JOLLEY (Sidney and Margaret's son) born c. 1867 in Manchester

I have Sidney on the 51, 61, 81, 91, 01 and 11 census.
I have Margaret on the 81 census only (Margaret died in 1890).
I have John on the 81, 91, 01 and 11 census.

Source Citation for the JOLLEY family on the 1881 census:
RG11/3752/109 p22

In December 1866 Sidney and Margaret marry in Manchester.
The eldest JOLLEY child that I know of is born in Manchester in 1867.
The next JOLLEY child that I know of, Robert William, is born in Liverpool in April 1872.
In 1881 the JOLLEY family are living in Hart Street, Southport.

Many thanks,

Kirsty 

[Mabel Bagshawe]

They should be in Liverpool as there's a Robert Jolley baptised in OCtober 1870, son of Sidney and Margaret (nee Moran) - can;t find a birth registration though!

[Ladyhawk]

They should be in Liverpool as there's a Robert Jolley baptised in OCtober 1870, son of Sidney and Margaret (nee Moran) - can;t find a birth registration though!

His birth registration

JOLLY, ROBERT    mmn   MOREN 
1870  D Quarter in LIVERPOOL  Volume 08B  Page 4

They do seem pretty elusive on 1871 census

Robertus Gulielmus Jolly
Baptism 28 May 1872 St Joseph's, Liverpool, Lancashire
Father:   Sydney Jolly Mother:   Margarita Moran

JOLLEY, ROBERT  WILLIAM  mmn   MORAN 
1872  J Quarter in LIVERPOOL  Volume 08B  Page 59

JOLLEY, JOHN    mmn    MOREN 
1867  D Quarter in MANCHESTER  Volume 08D  Page 299

[Ladyhawk]

This might be death of Robert born 1870

Robert Jolly Age:   16 months
Burial 23 Dec 1871 Liverpool, Lancashire
Cemetery Section:   Church of England

Robert Jolly
Registration Oct-Nov-Dec 1871
Age at Death:   1
Registration District:   Liverpool Lancashire
Volume:   8b Page:   168

[Rowan Tree]

Thanks so much for the birth/baptism/death/burial of Robert JOLLEY 1870 - 1871. I didn't have this child of Sidney and Margaret.

Given that Sidney and Margaret can now be found in Liverpool in Sept/Oct 1870 and December 1871, it seems very likely that the couple would be in Liverpool for the 71 census. But they're still proving elusive... 

[Jamjar]

1881: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27G-MCDB

JOLLEY, JOHN mmn MOREN 
GRO Reference: 1867  D Quarter in MANCHESTER  Volume 08D  Page 299

JOLLY, ROBERT mmn MOREN 
GRO Reference: 1870  D Quarter in LIVERPOOL  Volume 08B  Page 4

JOLLEY, ROBERT  WILLIAM mmn MORAN 
GRO Reference: 1872  J Quarter in LIVERPOOL  Volume 08B  Page 59

JOLLEY, ELIZA mmn MORAN 
GRO Reference: 1874  J Quarter in LIVERPOOL  Volume 08B  Page 182

JOLLEY, MARY  ANN mmn MORGAN 
GRO Reference: 1876  D Quarter in ORMSKIRK  Volume 08B  Page 730

JOLLEY, WILLIAM mmn MORAN 
GRO Reference: 1878  S Quarter in ORMSKIRK  Volume 08B  Page 771

Sorry, I just noticed that it was 1871, not 1881, you were after. 

Jamjar

[Ladyhawk]

I'm really struggling to find Sidney, Margaret and John JOLLEY on the 1871 census and wondered if anyone could help? Here is some information about the JOLLEY family;

Sidney JOLLEY born c. 1844 in Southport
Margaret (sidney's wife) nee MORAN born c. 1842 in Ireland
John JOLLEY (Sidney and Margaret's son) born c. 1867 in Manchester

I have Sidney on the 51, 61, 81, 91, 01 and 11 census.
I have Margaret on the 81 census only (Margaret died in 1890).
I have John on the 81, 91, 01 and 11 census.

Source Citation for the JOLLEY family on the 1881 census:
RG11/3752/109 p22

They should be in Liverpool as there's a Robert Jolley baptised in OCtober 1870, son of Sidney and Margaret (nee Moran) - can;t find a birth registration though!

His birth registration

JOLLY, ROBERT    mmn   MOREN 
1870  D Quarter in LIVERPOOL  Volume 08B  Page 4

They do seem pretty elusive on 1871 census

Robertus Gulielmus Jolly
Baptism 28 May 1872 St Joseph's, Liverpool, Lancashire
Father:   Sydney Jolly Mother:   Margarita Moran

JOLLEY, ROBERT  WILLIAM  mmn   MORAN 
1872  J Quarter in LIVERPOOL  Volume 08B  Page 59

JOLLEY, JOHN    mmn    MOREN 
1867  D Quarter in MANCHESTER  Volume 08D  Page 299

Still cannot find them on 1871 census 

Same as you can find Sidney Jolley and family on all other census

Unfortunately no address on 1870 baptism the only suggestion I can make is perhaps obtaining the birth certificate of Robert born 1870 which might help with an address and you can search the 1871 census that way

[Rowan Tree]

Thanks for trying to find Sidney and family, Ladyhawk.

They sure are well hidden in 71. I might order Robert's birth cert. There is a residence with his burial record: 67 Rose Place.

[Ladyhawk]

Trying to see if I could find enumeration district etc for 1871 street address at the moment this is all I’ve come up with for Rose Place on 1851 census https://www.lswlfhs.org.uk/census/Streets1851/StreetsQ-R.htm