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Offline PaulineJ

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Re: Cold Ash, Berkshire
« Reply #9 on: Monday 07 December 20 22:18 GMT (UK) »
Florence Archer plays no part in the narrative.

Florence Fuchs nee Thomson wasnt free to marry Sidney, and it looks like she left sidney at some point to marry mr Dudman
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Re: Cold Ash, Berkshire
« Reply #10 on: Monday 07 December 20 23:34 GMT (UK) »

One of these trees has Florence Lilian's marriage to FUCHS, then a divorce in 1921 and then her re-marriage in 1931 to Stephen DUDMAN, followed by her death in 1951.


Florence Lilian Dudman age 80
Burial Date:   9 Feb 1951
Burial Place:   Saint Andrew, Sudbury, Harrow
address 937 Harrow Road Sudbury


Electoral Date:   1933
Ward or Division/Constituency:   Acton
County or Borough:   Ealing
Florence Lillian Dudman
Stephen Dudman
Address 31 Friars Place Lane

Electoral Date:   1946/47
Ward or Division/Constituency:   Wembley South East
Florence L Dudman
Sidney Collins
Laurie A Collins
Address 33 Priory Avenue

I wonder if Sidney is Walter Sidney Collins

Have you checked for Florence L Dudman on 1939 register?






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Re: Cold Ash, Berkshire
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 08 December 20 07:55 GMT (UK) »
Blimey I can't take it all in.  How amazing and scandalous!  THANK YOU SO MUCH PaulineJ and Ladyhawk.

I'm supposed to be working now so only having a quick look.  But the Laurie Collins in 1947 is her daughter.  Her son, Walter Sidney married in 1923 so I think the Sidney could be her, unofficial husband.  I really need to get my head around all this today.  On the ER for 1964 I have Fred, Brian, Michael and Laurie Collins all living at 937 Harrow Road.  Michael is my dad (although I was adopted) so have no real knowledge of the family.  I'm really overwhelmed.  Thank you that's made my Christmas  :)
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Re: Cold Ash, Berkshire
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 08 December 20 14:28 GMT (UK) »
I wonder who was named as the informant on the death certificate for Florence?

Just incase you haven't seen these ER

1932 Ward or Division/Constituency:   Acton County or Borough:   Ealing
Laurie Alice Collins
Florence Lilian Dudman
Stephen Dudman
address 31 Friars Place Lane

1930/36 Ward or Division/Constituency:Harrow
Laurie Alice Collins
May Collins
Sidney Collins
Walter Sidney Collins
address 6 Priory Avenue

Is this the death of their daughter?

Laurie Alice Collins Age:   84
Birth 13 Jul 1908
Dec 1992 Thanet Kent Volume:   16 Page:   1798

For info. this looks to be Sidney’s baptism record
   
Sidney Collins Birth 11 Mar 1866
Baptism 4 Apr 1866 Salisbury, St Edmund, Wiltshire
Father Samuel occ ? Clerk mother Emma

1871 census Piece:   1955 Folio:   53 Page Number:   10
Samuel Collins   41 Attorney’s Clerk (Accountant)
Emma Collins   37
Frank F?? Collins   13
Samuel H Collins   11
Hale Maria Collins   10
William Albert Collins   8
Edith Mary Collins   6
SIDNEY Collins   4 Salisbury
Edward Augustus Collins   3
Jane Handler   Servant 15

Sidney Collins age 14 with parents/siblings on 1881c Piece:   2072 Folio:   76 Page 18
and age 25 with his brothers and mother on 1891c  RG12; Piece: 503; Folio: 154; Page: 18
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Re: Cold Ash, Berkshire
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 08 December 20 19:29 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for all this information.  I know what I'll be buying myself for Christmas - lots of certificates ;D  I hadn't looked for Laurie's death but I think that will be on my list as well.

I already know a lot of about Sidney Collins but Florence's antics have come as a complete surprise!
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Re: Cold Ash, Berkshire
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 08 December 20 20:01 GMT (UK) »
I wonder if this is the death of Florence’s husband Stephen

Stephen Dudman Death Age:   74
Registration Quarter:   Jan-Feb-Mar 1943
Registration District:   Chelsea
Inferred County:   London
Volume:   1a
Page:   410

I think he may have been previously married to Ellen Susan Rowe on 22 Feb 1891 at St Mary, Acton, Ealing his father Charles.

Ellen Susan Dudman age 59 Burial 30 Dec 1921 Ealing, Greater London Acton Cemetery

Florence’s first husband Adolphus P Fuchs married Constance Carter
1921 Registration District:   Wandsworth London
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Re: Cold Ash, Berkshire
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 08 December 20 21:31 GMT (UK) »
this stuff is so addictive - i'm going to spend hours going over all this new information.  thank you everyone.
Wright (West Ham, Stratford, Cripplegate)
Widenstrom (Chicago and Minnesota)
Swain (Cripplegate, St Lukes)
Wolfe (St Giles in the Fields)
Willis (Gt. Leighs; Brentford)
Bryant (Bristol, Glos)
Searle (Kent/Surrey)
Keyworth (Yorkshire)
Biggs (Harrow Weald)
Collins (Harrow Weald and Wiltshire)
Langston (Harrow Weald)