Mary Moore, born c1802 at Girthon

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And you're sure that you are not related via the Henry line?  You say that they have been researched. Also, the Elizabeth Fell link might be worth checking.

I noticed that there are quite a few trees on Ancestry but all stop at Mary Muir and some have got back to James's parents.

I'd try contacting the matches again. Someone I've been helping eventually had replies from matches on second or third message.

Gadget

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Hi Gadget,

I'm not 100% sure I'm not related on the Henry side.  I shall do a more thorough check on the family.

Tom 

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This may be nothing, but I checked scotlandspeople and I cannot find Agnes's birth/baptism recorded.
According to the Henry tree, Samuel Henry and Margaret McKie had 8 children.  Only the last one in 1842 is recorded.  Also, no record of birth/baptism of a Samuel Henry c1801.  Also tried Hendry or Henr* and Hendr*

Tom

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It's not unusual to not find baptisms.

However, I see from the 1871 census (transcript only) that the children are named:

John 13
James 8
Julia 5
Martha under 1.

No Samuel, Margaret or Mary.. Did they have other children who might have died or later that 1871 with these names?

Gadget

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Hi Gadget,

Here is the children of John Bailiff and Agnes Henry that I have:

John Henry (later became John Henry Bailiff by 1861) born 1858,
James Bailiff, born 1862, died 1951.
Julia Bailiff, born 1865, died 1908.
Martha Bailiff, born 1871.
Richard Moody Bailiff, born 1874, died 1896
Maggie Lizzie Bailiff, born 1878, died 1902.

Tom

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I checked scotlandspeople and there is only one death of a Samuel Bailiff in Scotland.

Actually Samuel Baileff, died 1868 at Anwoth, aged 67. Mother's surname: Dunsmore.

Tom

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No births of a Samuel Bail*f* recorded in Scotland.
Tom

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No births of a Samuel Bail*f* recorded in Scotland.
Tom

I was referring to the naming pattern and wondering why they didn't use Samuel (Agnes's father) or Mary (John's mother) . I wonder who Richard and Julia were named for.

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I checked scotlandspeople and there is only one death of a Samuel Bailiff in Scotland.

Actually Samuel Baileff, died 1868 at Anwoth, aged 67. Mother's surname: Dunsmore.

Tom

That would be the Samuel who Monica referred to in #11. The brother of James Baillief  - mother's surname the same.