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Re: Can anyone help me with my gypsy ancestry?
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 19 December 20 18:53 GMT (UK) »
Theoretically, yes!
Another Anonion marriage for you!
21 Oct 1907, St Anne Wandsworth
John Anonion, 28, Hawker, father John Anonion, Hawker
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Elizabeth Penfold
Witnessed by Thomas A Dearlove, Angelina Dearlove

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Re: Can anyone help me with my gypsy ancestry?
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 19 December 20 19:17 GMT (UK) »
If it's any help Phoebe's aunts were Ada Caroline Williams and Mary Ann (who was also known as Polly) Williams and they both married Penfolds, Frederick and Robert respectively. I've heard that they were a well-known family in Donovan's Yard.

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Re: Can anyone help me with my gypsy ancestry?
« Reply #20 on: Saturday 19 December 20 19:28 GMT (UK) »
Think I have found Anthony in 1871 ref rg10 1325 56 31. He was born Notting Hill and is with parents Edward & Sarah Ann. The 3rd marriage of Anthony to Lucy in 1917 shows a Sarah Ann Turner crossed out where father is normally recorded then this is a good indicator. Also in 1871 Sarah is recorded as a Hawker". If Sarah was widowed between 1871-81 then the marriage below is a possible

Marriages Sep 1880 
BLUNSDELL    Eliza        Islington    1b   388    
Lord    David Francis        Islington    1b   388    
Smith    Sarah Ann        Islington    1b   388   
TURNER    Daniel John        Islington    1b   388

Added Forget that marriage

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Re: Can anyone help me with my gypsy ancestry?
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 19 December 20 19:36 GMT (UK) »
Well done.
Not a lot of Anthonys about back then.
England Roman Catholic Parish Baptisms on a well known website
Free index has two interesting entries at Notting Hill
Antonius Smith, bap 1869, no father named
Antonius Smith, born 1870, bap 1871, father's first names Edwardi Skerry

Mother's names are not shown in the free index, but you can search using one, for both of the Anthony Smith records it looks like it could be some variation of, or latinized, Sarah Ann.


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Re: Can anyone help me with my gypsy ancestry?
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 19 December 20 20:01 GMT (UK) »
Catholic registers often give the mother's maiden name.
Whilst there is no means of doing a search on that database using one, it can be got round!
By searching on the same website in the wider Parish Baptisms in Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records!
Looking for Smiths born in 1870/1871, mother's surname Turner
It brings up Antonius Smith, born 1870, bap 1871, Notting Hill, Middlesex, in England Roman Catholic Parish Baptisms

That's the free info, for the full details of the baptism record you will need to look at the image.

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Re: Can anyone help me with my gypsy ancestry?
« Reply #23 on: Saturday 19 December 20 20:50 GMT (UK) »
I've heard that they were a well-known family in Donovan's Yard.

Which Town & County is this?

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

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Re: Can anyone help me with my gypsy ancestry?
« Reply #24 on: Saturday 19 December 20 20:52 GMT (UK) »
I've heard that they were a well-known family in Donovan's Yard.

Which Town & County is this?

Annie

It was on Cabul Road, in Battersea, London.

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Re: Can anyone help me with my gypsy ancestry?
« Reply #25 on: Saturday 19 December 20 20:53 GMT (UK) »
the writing isn't clear. Born 18 December 1870, baptised 19 Jan 1871, son of Edward Sk???? Smith and Sarah Anne formerly Turner. Address could be 1b George. Godmother Christiana Hudson.

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Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Can anyone help me with my gypsy ancestry?
« Reply #26 on: Saturday 19 December 20 20:59 GMT (UK) »