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Probate records
« on: Sunday 20 December 20 12:11 GMT (UK) »
Hello ,I have accessed the online probate records through ancestry.If I send away for these records will they show more information about the people involved ie ,address and oc
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Re: Probate records
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 20 December 20 12:18 GMT (UK) »
If these are the records it looks like you can't order at the moment -
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Ordering wills:
Unfortunately it is not currently possible to order a copy of the will from us
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/1904/


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Have you looked here-
https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/#wills
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Re: Probate records
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 20 December 20 12:24 GMT (UK) »
If the will was proved in England and Wales, then try

https://www.gov.uk/search-will-probate

You will have to register, no charge, and the cost of the will by .pdf is £1.50.

However, if "administration" is mentioned then there will not be a will. 

Transcriptions and NBI are merely finding aids.  They are NOT a substitute for original record entries.
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Re: Probate records
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 20 December 20 12:25 GMT (UK) »
yes it was from probate records I was looking at ,I try not to order anything from ancestry site!


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Re: Probate records
« Reply #4 on: Monday 22 April 24 09:53 BST (UK) »
Hello,Yes I know this is an old thread & just need a bit of clarification on probate records.Is there more to the probate record than the one that shows up on searches.ie -will it say who the benefactors were,Thanks
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Re: Probate records
« Reply #5 on: Monday 22 April 24 10:20 BST (UK) »
If you are referring to this particular probate index

All England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1995
 


So long as the text you read does not have the word ADMINISTRATION, then what you order (for £1.50 from https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/) will be a copy of the WILL the person made. So yes it will say who the beneficiaries are.   Which may or may not be interesting.

If it does have ADMINISTRATION in the text, it means there was no will. And while it could possibly be useful, it usually isn't, as you already know who applied for the administration from the Calendar)


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Re: Probate records
« Reply #6 on: Monday 22 April 24 12:10 BST (UK) »
If you are referring to this particular probate index

All England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1995
 


So long as the text you read does not have the word ADMINISTRATION, then what you order (for £1.50 from https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/) will be a copy of the WILL the person made. So yes it will say who the beneficiaries are.   Which may or may not be interesting.

If it does have ADMINISTRATION in the text, it means there was no will. And while it could possibly be useful, it usually isn't, as you already know who applied for the administration from the Calendar)

Just in addition to this, sometimes, though rarely, the entry in the probate calendar may say 'Administration, with Will' in which case I assume a copy will is also provided from the Probate service.

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Re: Probate records
« Reply #7 on: Monday 22 April 24 12:21 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the info mckha489 & Boo ,I will have to go into the records and see if it has administration on it,I should of done it in 2020 but got waylaid doing something else.just been there  it says probate granted to her son John
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Re: Probate records
« Reply #8 on: Monday 22 April 24 12:34 BST (UK) »
While we are on the subject of probate ,would there be a record for somebody who died in the Drummond Castle sinking of 1896 off Molene would it be in France,UK ,South Africa if at all?
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