Bristol Parish Records Lookup - John Churchill (DOB 1815)

[Capetown]

I think that's it, because the the William P....... (can make out PEARCE now)  CHURCHILL signature at the wedding of Samuel Joyce CHURCHILL in 1829.


 and Betty is a nickname for Elizabeth.


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There is this marriage at St Marylebone, Westminster 28 February 1837

Frederick CHURCHILL of Trinity in the Parish of St Marylebone

Ann SMITH - Trinity  (again by Licence)


witnesses: John CHURCHILL and Eliza CHURCHILL

[Capetown]

Baptism at Westminster St Mary, Bryanstone Square
22 April 1840  (date of birth: February 1840)

Caroline Margaretta CHURCHILL

father: Frederick (occupation: Butler)
mother: Ann

residence: 41 Upper York Street


Caroline CHURCHILL aged 3 months is buried (residence: Upper York Street, Marylebone)

[Ladyhawk]

1851 Census Durham, Dalton on Tees

Dalton Station

where John is the Station Master Rail and states he was born in Gloucestershire, Bristol

CHURCHILL

On this census the Enumerator has written John's age as 37 -

Elizabeth aged 32 - Station Master's wife - born London St George
John 3 - born Yorkshire, Beadale
James - 1 born Yorkshire, Dalton

GRO INDEX

CHURCHILL John Hudson - mother's maiden name JARMAN

Hudson would probably be a surname from either the Mother or the father.

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Look on Freereg for James CHURCHILL

County: Yorkshire, North Riding
Place : Richmond
Baptism Date: 17 Mar 1850
James
father: John
mother : Elizabeth
abode : Richmond

father occupation: Station Master.

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Frederick CHURCHILL baptised at the same place - 5 Mar 1854

John was the Station Master.

For those helping you maybe interested in the family tree created by SarahChurchill https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/L5KL-935

Not looked at every detail although there doesn't appear to be an 1841 census for John Churchill born c1814 or 1861 census for John & his family wife Elizabeth, children John, Alexia, Frederick, Katherine & Alfred B Churchill

[Capetown]

Excellent.

[Ladyhawk]

Don't know if this has already been posted apologies if I'm duplicating

1848 marriage of John Churchill gave his residence as Trinity District

Is this a possibility for the death of his father William

William Churchill Age: 64 Burial 15 Dec 1843 St James, Pentonville, Islington
   
William Churchill Esq of   Residence:   Trinity Row Islington county of  Middlesex
Probate Date:   18 Jan 1843

I’ve only scanned through the above Will quickly quite difficult to read these are some names I've picked out not sure of some of the spellings

Sister Jane Kearsey
Brother Samuel Churchill
Brother Charles Churchill
Late brother Joseph Churchill
Not sure how these are related names come after late brother Joseph need to take a closer look at wording to decipher
Joseph S?y Churchill, Sophia Churchill Caroline  Lu?as and Mary Ann ?ate
To my late wife’s ? Auralia G??cy late wife of John Gurn?y and to Harriet ?….. of my present wife
Servant Mary Wootton if all be living with me at the time of my and to my late servant Elizabeth Johnson and to ? Two daughters of my late brother George Churchill
And to Edward Saxton and Charles Saxton …… of my late wife ….
William Churchill …… sons of my late Brother George Churchill
Give to my said wife ??illis? All my freehold estates (her name might be Phillis)


William Churchill, widower
Marriage Date:   19 May 1834
Marriage Place:   St Mary, Islington, Islington,
Spouse:   Phillis Andrews, widow

1841c Piece:   665Folio:   23 Page Number:   4
Trinity Row
Wm Churchill   60 occ Ind.
Phillis Churchill   50
Mary Gurney 10
Neither born in this county
Others named on in the household servants
Mary Wootton 30 F.S. (she could be the servant mentioned in the Will)

[SarahChurchill13]

@ Capetown/DJM297 I can't find records for Frederick Churchill through Family Search - where were you able to pull this up? Unfortunately they're all behind an extra paywall through Ancestry. I can see the census data though - definitely looks promising. I may not be able to get to the baptism records for Frederick and John in 1810 without paying - that's OK.

I think it's fair to say this looks like it could be the right family - I'm just worried about John's brother Alfred and his lack of existence! Alfred is on every family tree written by my Grandpa and by my cousin (also now deceased - I wish I'd started this when they were alive!). I'm also wondering about the clear lack of baptism record for John considering the rest of the family seems well-documented. Capetown's records of Frederick and John baptised in Bristol in 1810 could fit, but the parent names are so different - possibly an error? 1810 is also a *bit* early for John based on everything else we have (family info, census records, age and death date on tombstone).

John and Elizabeth as witnesses at Frederick and Ann's wedding seems to connect the family. I'll keep looking for poor Alfred.

Ladyhawk I will have a look at a copy of that will if I can find it and see if I find any other useful info. Could be promising! Definitely have Samuels and Charles in the family tree, so may be keeping the names in the family, but it's much harder when they have such common names!

[Capetown]

Ancestry has

Bristol, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages and Burials 1538-1812 (actual copy of register)

Baptism 1819 at Bristol St James, Parish Register 1797-1812

Frederic and John CHURCHILLS baptisms both on the 26 August 1810 - with different fathers is at the bottom of the page.
The marriage of Samuel Joyce CHURCHILL to Eliza Jane GRAVES - it really does appear to be Wm Pearce Churchill as a witness, along with Margaret BRADDAN

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[djm297]

I have been using the records on Find My Past-where there is a baptism for John Churchill age 5 weeks on 17 Jan 1813 at  Bristol-son of William and Margaretta.

The birth record and all the census details for Frederick are also there...is he on the trees you have from your family? Could he actually be the "Alfred"on the trees you have?

[Capetown]

I used Family Search to find Samuel CHURCHILL on the 1841 census with his family - which led me to find them on Ancestry, transcribed as Saml CHISENHALL and his family.

They are living in Middlesex, St Marylebone, Christchurch -
Park Street - (it is a bit faint)


Saml CHURCHILL -  36 Servant, not born in County
Elizh - 31 - Middlesex
Mary - 13
Charles - 8  (Charles is a Butcher's Apprentice - 1851 census)
Eliza - 4



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My Grandad's name was William, but known as Ted - People did, and still have nicknames - or are known by another name (sometimes middle name etc)