Thomas Lloyd born 1819 cardigan

[gower]

forgot the death notice, name of the barque matches the one mentioned on Welsh Mariners Index

https://newspapers.library.wales/view/3037668/3037669/11/

Yes correct

[gower]

Don't think the op mentions a birth in Cardigan or Cardiganshire but the Welsh mariner's index gives Cardigan as his place of birth.

http://www.welshmariners.org.uk/

Possible baptism 3 April 1819 in Llandysiliogogo for Thomas, bastard son of Thomas Loyd, gent, and Sara Jenkin, servant. The abodes are rather faded. I'll see what I can find.

Interesting.....  it’s a long Way from cardigan.

[gower]

Don't think the op mentions a birth in Cardigan or Cardiganshire but the Welsh mariner's index gives Cardigan as his place of birth.

http://www.welshmariners.org.uk/

Possible baptism 3 April 1819 in Llandysiliogogo for Thomas, bastard son of Thomas Loyd, gent, and Sara Jenkin, servant. The abodes are rather faded. I'll see what I can find.

Interesting.....  it’s a long Way from cardigan.

But..... the mariners register does not quote anyone as being born in Cardiganshire only cardigan.

[gower]

This link mentions a Thomas Lloyd also known as Twmi Llwyd
https://www.ebooksread.com/authors-eng/ernest-richmond-horsfall-turner/walks-and-wanderings-in-county-cardigan-being-a-descriptive-sketch-of-its-pictu-ala/page-11-walks-and-wanderings-in-county-cardigan-being-a-descriptive-sketch-of-its-pictu-ala.shtml

[osprey]

you can search by county of birth but under place of birth it shows e.g. Aberaeron, Borth, Cardigan.
The entry for your Thomas has under place of birth Cardigan, year of birth 1819, CC or CS 3387, Reg Ticket 505812, capacities 1m 1852 OC53, Kew ref 122/4.

The abode for Sara is Goyffos

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01q6f/

The road just to the south is the turnpike road from Cardigan.

[gower]

Osprey, Thank you very much for your help.
I do think that Thomas Lloyd is the illegitimate son of Thomas Lloyd and Sara Jenkin. Llandysiliogogo
Sara also had another illegitimate son in 1822 (John Evans)
Unfortunately I cannot work out where Thomas Lloyd senior lived and have failed to find him in the area.
On an earlier post, I mentioned Twmi Llwyd. I have now received a copy of Newquay and Llanarth by WJ Lewis. Page 26 of the book states that Twmi Llwyd, was Thomas Lloyd Evans Grandson of Jeremiah.  He also had a navigational school but the book states Twmi was a Bachelor. So not the same Thomas Lloyd

[osprey]

no, I've played around with filters but can't make anything much of the abode. There are at least a couple of candidates for for Thomas, gent:
Thomas Lloyd of Coedmore
1841https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M779-1P6

& Thomas Lloyd of Bronwydd
1841 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M779-BL3

The first Thomas died 1857
https://newspapers.library.wales/view/3054851/3054854/20/
and his will is online it is long & complicated.

The second one died in 1845 "awful sudden"
https://newspapers.library.wales/view/3051973/3051976/25/
his will also online, even longer. I noticed that this Lloyd family also had a property called Cilrhiw/Cilrhue and I wonder if this is what the baptism register says.

 

[gower]

thank you for that information.
I have asked the Ceredigion Archives if they have the original Baptism record, if so, they may be able to decipher the residence of Thomas Loyd.
It's interesting you mention Cilrhiw as it is in the same area as Llandysiliogogo
https://historicplacenames.rcahmw.gov.uk/placenames/recordedname/12ba8bbd-2418-4b5f-a1a5-a3dd2e003b93
We may have the right Thomas !

[gower]

This was a very interesting read too
http://www.glen-johnson.co.uk/coedmore-mansion/
Thomas Lloyd of Coedmore was described as
notorious in a free-and-easy age and society for the number of his bastards, several of whom, when they grew up, served their father in a domestic capacity at Coedmore. He is said once to have shocked a rather particular judge at the Assizes by playfully pointing out to him that the coachman who was driving him and the footman in attendance were some of these illegitimate hopefuls. He was, however, reckoned generous towards a succession of mistresses, for he granted them all small farms or holdings on the Coedmore estate on long leases at low or nominal rents. His own sons born in wedlock did not fare so well. In order to be spared the trouble and expense of keeping and educating them, the three young Lloyds were put out to walk, like foxhound puppies, on the outlying farms, and it was only after much entreaty from a neighbour that the eldest son and heir was at last sent to school at Rugby and later was allowed to read for the Bar…