James Wilkinson born Jan 1871 St Mary's Parish Wigan Lancashire

[Sandblown]

Aw well, another theory out the window !

This is certainly a good mystery.

By the way, I thought James Wilkinson Senior's Occupation of Brewer, might have been misheard. There seems to be more Coal Miners in Wigan, than Beer Brewers, thats why I thought a Coal Hewer would be most likely.

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You have probably looked into this.

I notice that James Wilkinson Enlisted with an associate from Wigan, Their Service Numbers are consecutive.

This being a James Connell(y), born 1871, St Mary's, Wigan.

Have You tried to make a connection, with the two, back in Wigan, before They joined up together ?

[liscoole]

Aw well, another theory out the window !

This is certainly a good mystery.

By the way, I thought James Wilkinson Senior's Occupation of Brewer, might have been misheard. There seems to be more Coal Miners in Wigan, than Beer Brewers, thats why I thought a Coal Hewer would be most likely.

Lol yes it has been my brick wall for 8 years now!!! And your point about brewer/ hewer makes perfect sense!
I’m just astounded by the number of lies/ inaccuracies this ancestor has made! Would love to know why he thought such secrecy was necessary!
I will check into James Connolly, that is another good line of thinking, thanks!
Edit... can anyone give me James Connolly’s date of birth from his enlistment records?

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liscoole, the 1897 Marriage of Margaret Wilkinson to William Hinds. Note Her age of 23, and Her Address of Caroline Street.

Lancashire OPC Baptisms

Margaret Wilkinson b.11 May 1868, bapt. 12 Jul 1868, St.Thomas Wigan
Father Joseph, Mother Elizabeth, Occupation Collier, Address Queen Street Wigan.

Margaret Wilkinson b. 5 August 1875, bapt. 5th Sept 1875, Christ Church Ince.
Father Joseph, Mother Elizabeth, Occupation Collier, Address Caroline Street

Margaret Wilkinson b. 29 Dec 1873, bapt. 1 Mar 1874, St Thomas Wigan.
Father Joseph, Mother Elizabeth, Occupation Collier, Address 9 Ironmonger Lane.

ADD: William Wilkinson b. 12 May 1870, bapt 12 Jun 1870, St Thomas Wigan
Father Joseph, Mother Elizabeth, Occupation Collier, Address Pump Yard (Off Queen Street) Wigan

There's quite a lot Joseph and Elizabeth Wilkinson Births and Baptisms, between Ince and Wigan.

In the OPC Search Field, for a Baptism, I just had the Surname Wilkinson, Father Joseph Wilkinson, Mother Elizabeth, and search date 1878 +/- 10 years.

[liscoole]

Thank you Sandblown for finding these for me. I appreciate it.
It’s interesting that there are two entries for Margaret Wilkinson.
Do you know if Ince is part of Wigan? Is it near to these addresses listed below?

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Around the 1870s, Ince In Makerfield was a Chapelry, in Wigan Parish. In is now part of the Metropolitan Borough of Wigan. It is located South East of the two Streets, Google Maps Refer.

On Google Maps, Caroline Street and Queen Street run in parallel to one another, so it makes sense for Me to wonder, whether Joseph and Elizabeth Wilkinson lived at all those addresses, at some point, and all the Margaret's were born to Them. I assume some deaths might be recorded. I did notice another J&E Wilkinson Child born in Caroline Street, on the Lancashire OPC, and Baptised at Christ Church, Ince. Similarly, J&E Wilkinson's living at Ironmonger Lane and a Baptism at All Saints, Wigan.

If it is the same Wilkinson Family, I cannot understand why They switched Baptisms from St Thomas's to Christ Church, Ince and All Saints, Wigan.

ADD: Ironmonger Lane is also off Queen Street.

[liscoole]

Sandblown, thank you so much for your work on this and your valuable insights!
I have found the Wigan world website which gives burial records for this area. I will have a look tomorrow to see if this yields any further info.

Thanks again!

[Sandblown]

You're welcome, and good luck with Your further research.

Just to add, James Connell(y) who signed up at the same time as James Wilkinson, was aged 21.

Sandblown.

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