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Name change - Schonbeck to Carr
« on: Wednesday 06 January 21 20:30 GMT (UK) »
I once found record online (i think it was on London Gazette?) to say my ancester changed his name i cannot find any record of it anywhere!?! I have tried searching google, National Archives etc.. but nothing. I am pretty certain that the change happened between 1920 and 1935 as he was married on these dates (the first being Schonbeck and the 2nd listed as Carr)

Can anyone help?

Ernst August Ludwich Schonbeck - Ernest Carr
Morralley, Morrallee, Moralee, Felton, Paxton, Schonbeck

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Re: Name change - Schonbeck to Carr
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 06 January 21 22:51 GMT (UK) »
Can't see anything in the Gazette.

This appears to be him with his parents Frederick and Johanne and siblings in the 1901

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9DK-GY3

First marriage

Marriages Jun 1920   
Christenson    Lily    Schonb[eo]ck    Marylebone    1a   1701
Schonbeck    Ernest    Christenson    Marylebone    1a   1701

Is this his second marriage?

Marriages Dec 1935 
Carr    Ernest    Rigby    Manchester S.    8d   335   
Rigby    Jeanne    Carr    Manchester S.    8d   335

If so they are on the 1939 Register.

Did you obtain both marriage certs to see if his father's name is the same?

Finally come up with what I assume is his birth

SCHOENBECK, ERNST  AUGUST LUDEWICH    MMN REESE 
GRO Reference: 1896  J Quarter in MARYLEBONE  Volume 01A  Page 533
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: Name change - Schonbeck to Carr
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 06 January 21 23:10 GMT (UK) »
Had a daughter in DQ 1922, birth registered twice as Schonbeck and Carr-Schonbeck.  So maybe changed his name in that year or soon after?
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire


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Re: Name change - Schonbeck to Carr
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 07 January 21 10:56 GMT (UK) »
Had a daughter in DQ 1922, birth registered twice as Schonbeck and Carr-Schonbeck.  So maybe changed his name in that year or soon after?

Good point`
Morralley, Morrallee, Moralee, Felton, Paxton, Schonbeck

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Re: Name change - Schonbeck to Carr
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 07 January 21 10:57 GMT (UK) »
Had a daughter in DQ 1922, birth registered twice as Schonbeck and Carr-Schonbeck.  So maybe changed his name in that year or soon after?

Good point so that brings the dates closer :)
Morralley, Morrallee, Moralee, Felton, Paxton, Schonbeck

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Re: Name change - Schonbeck to Carr
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 07 January 21 11:07 GMT (UK) »
It may be that advertising a name change in the paper was not a legal requirement so that may be why you can't find anything.

I would imagine that he would have had to notify the government and others like his bank.

You can call yourself whatever you like as long as there is no intention to defraud.

As I said in an earlier post, he appears in the 1939 Register under his new name.
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: Name change - Schonbeck to Carr
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 07 January 21 11:57 GMT (UK) »
Just spoke to the National Archives and they stated that people didn't have to change their name via deed poll so they may not be a record of his name change. It just bugs me that i am sure i saw something somewhere!? Oh well!

Thanks for your help Girl Guide!
Morralley, Morrallee, Moralee, Felton, Paxton, Schonbeck

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Re: Name change - Schonbeck to Carr
« Reply #7 on: Friday 08 January 21 01:43 GMT (UK) »
Just a thought about surname derivations in England. Carr is a name for wet place in northern England from a Norse word. Beck is a stream. Ernst may have had a particular reason to choose Carr or it may have been a random name.
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Re: Name change - Schonbeck to Carr
« Reply #8 on: Friday 08 January 21 20:10 GMT (UK) »

Hi,

You mght be right Maiden Stone. I think SCHOENBECK would tranlsate something like,

SCHOEN = Beautiful

BACH = Brook, stream, creek

So about water :)

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