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Re: Marriage of BUSH - SHUTE 1927 Ontario.
« Reply #27 on: Monday 11 January 21 21:16 GMT (UK) »
Is there any way to check two deaths in Kingston Ontario RK ?

Daisy Mary nee Bush Potter - 1914 - 1985 (no firm source)

husband Allen Potter - 1910 - 1993 (no firm source)

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Potter-4052

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Re: Marriage of BUSH - SHUTE 1927 Ontario.
« Reply #28 on: Monday 11 January 21 21:20 GMT (UK) »


Perhaps 16 March 1993  Kingston, Ontario for Allen/Allan Potter ?

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Re: Marriage of BUSH - SHUTE 1927 Ontario.
« Reply #29 on: Monday 11 January 21 21:24 GMT (UK) »
This could be another son of Daisy and Allen Potter.

Fred Potter born 1st February 1938 Kingston Ontario  died 31 December 2009 Red Deer Alberta.

Red Deer Advocate Red Deer, Alberta, Canada  (with photograph)
31 Dec 2009, Thu    Page 26

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/67418471/fred-potter-31-december-2009/

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Re: Marriage of BUSH - SHUTE 1927 Ontario.
« Reply #30 on: Tuesday 12 January 21 01:02 GMT (UK) »
Is there any way to check two deaths in Kingston Ontario RK ?

Daisy Mary nee Bush Potter - 1914 - 1985 (no firm source)

husband Allen Potter - 1910 - 1993 (no firm source)

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Potter-4052

Sandra

The Kingston Frontenac Public Library should have obits from the local newspaper on microfilm.

https://research.digitalkingston.ca/record-and-documents/newspapers/browse-all-by-date

I had a look in the OGS TONI database....looks like Allen Potter and Daisy M Potter are buried in Glenhaven Memorial Gardens, Frontenac County.   Sandra has found other members of the family in this cemetery.  Allen and Daisy don't show up on the findagrave site.    The Kingston Branch of the OGS has the transcripts of the tombstones in this cemetery. 

https://vitacollections.ca/ogscollections/details.asp?ID=2718314

The Kingston OGS collection is housed in the Kingston Frontenac Public Library. 

We are in lockdown here in Ontario and the libraries are only open for curbside pickup.  I don't know if there are any librarians available to do genealogy lookups??   The OP could ask.   

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Re: Marriage of BUSH - SHUTE 1927 Ontario.
« Reply #31 on: Tuesday 12 January 21 15:53 GMT (UK) »
Thank you all for the replies, it is quite over whelming and i am most grateful bless you all.
Thank you Sandra, I have just spent the last 3 hours trying to decipher all the details, but am having problems putting this all together in order to make it fit.
The problem i have and refer to on reply #14,
"Canada Voters List 1963 - 348 Brock Street Kingston - George Bush (retired) - Nellie Bush
Sandra"
...Is this George Bush senior as below ?
 Florence Kathleen Bush father was George Watson Bush apparently died sometime between 1927-1932 according to the marriage of another daughter from a previous marriage here in the uk, recorded as " Father George Bush deceased". I have all details of the family living in the UK and also details of them emigrating to Canada etc 1909, he and his wife suffered the loss of many children.

Its possible i have missed something. My original request Florence  Kathleen Bush - Reginald Shute 1927, fits in nicely at the start.

However, I feel i need a death for George Watson Bush.

regards Tony.
Researching My Family in Norfolk.
Barker-Barnard-Brooks-Bush.
Eagling-Fincham-Goddard-Gooch.
Hammond-Johnson-Long.
Musk-Mickleborough/Mickleburgh.
Oakley- Parker-Potter-Smith-Wright...

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Re: Marriage of BUSH - SHUTE 1927 Ontario.
« Reply #32 on: Tuesday 12 January 21 17:11 GMT (UK) »
Canada has very strict privacy laws, there are no BMD records as in the UK.
To try and find links to Florence Kathleen Bush and Reginald Shute, I have researched her brother and sister and also there children to see if there was ever a mention of Florence, Reginald and there children (it does look like they had a few) Also to see if the parents George and Nellie were ever mentioned in any obituary.

When you re-read everything you will find that Mrs Reginald Shute lived with George and Nellie Bush in 1940/1945 (so George cannot have died by 1932)  ??? So I am afraid the information the daughter gave on her marriage to Clifford Pointer was incorrect.

Canada Voters List 1963 did show - 348 Brock Street Kingston - George Bush (retired) - Nellie Bush

We have already found a wealth of information but sadly nothing on Florence and Reginald or a confirmation of the deaths of George and Nellie.

Perhaps if you email Kingston Frontenac Public Library giving as many details as you are able, they may be able top find obituaries for George Watson and Nellie Bush or even Florence and Reginald.

It is possible that Dorothy Violet Kathleen Bush may have knowingly or unknowingly presumed her father was dead. This was not uncommon.

On a Canadian Passenger List - Dorothy Violet Kathleen Bush aged 13 years, departed London to St Johns New Brunswick arriving 29 March 1920 on the Sicialian. Going to Peterborough Ontario as a domestic.

On the Canada Ocean Arrivals Form (30A) it says her passage was paid by Dr Barnados Homes. She was going to Mr Hobday, Supt Of Barnados Homes Peterborough Ontario.
She was the granddaughter of Mrs Fox, 80 Hall Road, Lakenham. Norwich.

A UK return passenger list shows Dorothy V Bush - Dorothy V Bush  born 1906 and aged 21 years. Departing Quebec and arriving Southampton England 6 July 1927 on the Empress of France.
She was a clerk. Going to 3 The Elms, Unthank Road, Norwich. Future intended residence :- England.

Have you contacted Dr Barnados ?  They would have information on Dorothy in Canada.  Her file would normally say if she had contact with her father.

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Re: Marriage of BUSH - SHUTE 1927 Ontario.
« Reply #33 on: Tuesday 12 January 21 17:37 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

Just checked the OGS TONI database for George W Bush in Frontenac county.  There is a tombstone transcription for a George W Bush - Cataraqui Cemetery.  I also checked for Nellie.  There is a tombstone transcription for Nellie E Bush - Cataraqui Cemetery. 
https://ogs.on.ca/databases/toni/toni-search-results/?lastname=bush&select=any&firstname=nellie&loc=frontenac&dotypes=&types=&doindexes=&indexes=&sourceid=

Unfortunately, there are no photos on findagrave for these 2, so I can't tell you the information from the tombstones.  The Kingston Library may be able to help - it should hold the transcriptions from Cataraqui Cemetery.

https://vitacollections.ca/ogscollections/details.asp?ID=2718311

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Re: Marriage of BUSH - SHUTE 1927 Ontario.
« Reply #34 on: Tuesday 12 January 21 17:47 GMT (UK) »
I checked the TONI database for Florence Shute in Frontenac county.  There is no record under that name. 

There is a Florence K Bush listed for Cataraqui Cemetery.
https://ogs.on.ca/databases/toni/toni-item-view/?toni_id=1014103

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Re: Marriage of BUSH - SHUTE 1927 Ontario.
« Reply #35 on: Tuesday 12 January 21 17:49 GMT (UK) »
Great info. Excellent RK. 

Nellie was Ellen Elizabeth Neave on the marriage  so the "E2 fits in very nicely.

George Watson Bush - 1881 aged 27 years
Marriage Date:   25 Jul 1908 Norwich, St Stephen, England
Father George Bush - Spouse Ellen Elizabeth Neave

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