The Youngez & The Eldez

[Jane Sharp]

Hello

I am researching the children of John and Ann Renshaw, from Stretford, Lancashire, England - specifically their children born in the 1750s.

I have found that there are two John and Ann Renshaw couples. Both Johns were butchers.

In the Saint Matthews book of baptisms, some of the baptised children's fathers are listed as "John Renshaw the Youngez, butcher and his wife Ann" and "John Renshaw the Eldez, butcher and his wife Ann" -

Does this mean there were two brothers, both butchers, with the same name John Renshaw ?

Thankyou in advance

[Mike in Cumbria]

Younger and Elder

[BumbleB]

Firstly the words are "younger" and "elder" and the interpretation, as I understand it, is that of father and son.

[Mike in Cumbria]

Firstly the words are "younger" and "elder" and the interpretation, as I understand it, is that of father and son.

That's what I thought until I re-read the post. Both were baptising children in the 1750s and both had a wife called Anne. It seems unlikely.

[Mike in Cumbria]

I wonder whether they were cousins, both in the family business?

[KGarrad]

In my youth, both my mother and my gran (her mother-in-law) used the same butcher.
Mum was always referred to as Mrs. Garrad, the younger!

[BumbleB]

An example of these baptisms:

1759 - Stretford

[BumbleB]

I should have also added that it is quite feasible that father and son are procreating in the same timescale, and that the mothers' forename is coincidental. 

I have a lot of gentlemen with the forename Thomas and they all seemed to marry Mary.    A mammoth task to sort them out.

[Mike in Cumbria]

I should have also added that it is quite feasible that father and son are procreating in the same timescale, and that the mothers' forename is coincidental. 

I have a lot of gentlemen with the forename Thomas and they all seemed to marry Mary.    A mammoth task to sort them out.

My Edward Joneses all seem to marry Janes