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Re: Bureaucracy gone mad?
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 16 January 21 15:41 GMT (UK) »
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Re: Bureaucracy gone mad?
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 16 January 21 15:43 GMT (UK) »
"appointments at stupid o'clock and still be in the waiting room 2 hours later."

Please be on time. Been there, done that.

Place: Newark, Notts
Contacts: Elderly couple.
Conversation: 
"Central Booking": We have space for you to attend for your Covid vaccination.  It's on such a date, at such a time ... in Cheshire.
Elderly couple: Why can't we have it here in Newark, where they are now doing hundreds at the Showground?
"Central Booking":  Oh, we don't know about that.

Words fail me ??? ???

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Re: Bureaucracy gone mad?
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 16 January 21 15:53 GMT (UK) »
"appointments at stupid o'clock and still be in the waiting room 2 hours later."

Please be on time. Been there, done that.

Place: Newark, Notts
Contacts: Elderly couple.
Conversation: 
"Central Booking": We have space for you to attend for your Covid vaccination.  It's on such a date, at such a time ... in Cheshire.
Elderly couple: Why can't we have it here in Newark, where they are now doing hundreds at the Showground?
"Central Booking":  Oh, we don't know about that.

Words fail me ??? ???


I know someone who had one last week here and luckily it's only 20 minutes away.
But it's at a nurses training school, hopefully I'll get someone who's done a few before I get there

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Re: Bureaucracy gone mad?
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 16 January 21 19:44 GMT (UK) »
What I have just read appals,upsets and angers me .
For many reasons ,but an incident a couple of years ago  had  me in flames.
As brief as I can, someone dumped in a skip dedicated to building rubble from my roof replacement ,ten wheelie bin liners of household rubbish.
I phoned the council as the skip would not be accepted at the tip.
They informed me the cost for them to remove the bags  was £30 each!
So £ 300 for me to find.
The council advised me to look and see if I could get an address ,name
I did and found a Universal credit letter etc.
Well, you would not believe it!
Money for dental treatment,glasses, prison visiting and travel costs to and from hospital.visiting .
This was a young woman with three children, one with her surname and two more with two different surnames.
 Her rent arrears were being paid little by little , also Council tax.heating costs etc all included in her payments each month.
It made me very angry , it seemed to all be on a plate for her ,all worked
out .
I know nothing of such benefits ,being lucky enough to be in work and not needing benefits ,so perhaps I should not judge ,but a neighbour was found collapsed ,and pronounced unfit to work but after a brief recovery ,he was put on another job which entailed heavy lifting and rapid up and down head movements which upset his balance .
Collapsed again.
Not working now and he says he gets no benefits ,too young for his Retirement pension so as I know nothing about the system ,on the surface it seems very unfair.
When people are in distressing worrying circumstances ,they need easy to understand and uncomplicated instructions ,and help .
Makes you wonder if things are made so difficult on purpose.
Viktoria.










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« Reply #13 on: Saturday 16 January 21 22:57 GMT (UK) »
Griff, your story is one that should be told to an organisation which supports people on benefit, and to your M.P., as lesson in how not to do things, if for no other reason.   
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Re: Bureaucracy gone mad?
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 17 January 21 00:05 GMT (UK) »
"appointments at stupid o'clock and still be in the waiting room 2 hours later."

Please be on time. Been there, done that.

Place: Newark, Notts
Contacts: Elderly couple.
Conversation: 
"Central Booking": We have space for you to attend for your Covid vaccination.  It's on such a date, at such a time ... in Cheshire.
Elderly couple: Why can't we have it here in Newark, where they are now doing hundreds at the Showground?
"Central Booking":  Oh, we don't know about that.

Words fail me ??? ???

I remember a government minister being questioned about those extremely long distance Covid appointments.

He apparently knew of them and said that everyone was at liberty to not take up the appointment but wait until their local area gave out appointments.

On the face of it, it seems to me that NHS England put a map of the UK on a table and stuck a few pins in it (mayb e one in each county) and said "That's where our first vaccination centres are going to be".   Since that first attempt local NHS & GPs have got together and opened up their own Hubs.
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Re: Bureaucracy gone mad?
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 17 January 21 00:11 GMT (UK) »
Griff, your story is one that should be told to an organisation which supports people on benefit, and to your M.P., as lesson in how not to do things, if for no other reason.   
I've made lots of notes and photocopied conversations in the online journal.
I haven't decided how to deal with it yet but there's far more than I've mentioned here.
I know of someone I can contact to get good advice on how to proceed.
So that's probably what I'll do.
Griff

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« Reply #16 on: Sunday 17 January 21 00:20 GMT (UK) »
Rena, there's a perfectly good nightingale hospital very close to where I live which I'm sure isn't being used atm. It would make the perfect location for vaccinations, failing that, a perfect place for testing too. just off a motorway, very easy access for vehicles, plenty of parking, nice, big building.... I doubt they'd think of doing it there, that's too easy.
Griff

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Re: Bureaucracy gone mad?
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 17 January 21 05:23 GMT (UK) »
Don't you have a current affair or 60 minutes type programme on one of the TV channels, which take on the sort of garbage that the "bureaucracy" dish out to people?

We have a couple of them in Sydney, and it is amazing what the reaction can be, particularly when the minister "in charge" of that portfolio gets an ear full, on state or national TV. ;D ;D

Politicians do NOT like being made to look like their department is full of hopeless and/or useless time fillers. Not good for their reputation, or their chance of being voted back in next time around.

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