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Re: Belgium help please, Van de poel
« Reply #27 on: Tuesday 19 January 21 22:32 GMT (UK) »
Ohhh, I don't have them, yes please if you don't mind sharing them? Also does it give any more info on hendrikus occupation or anything? Wonder why they divorced?
Oh my days that's incredibly fascinating!! So let me get this right JFJ van de poel was illegitimate? (does it say cause of death on death certificate by the way?)
And his father was JB van de poel who enlisted in the French army and was never seen from again??!!
Also what does it say abit JFJ military records?
I am soooooo sorry to out all this on you! But can't thankyou enough for your help xx
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Re: Belgium help please, Van de poel
« Reply #28 on: Tuesday 19 January 21 22:35 GMT (UK) »
Also why did the military agree to the wedding?would they have needed too??
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« Reply #29 on: Wednesday 20 January 21 01:15 GMT (UK) »
Also why did the military agree to the wedding?would they have needed too??
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at that time it was quite common if a man was doing military service to need permission, maybe for the time off for the wedding? haha
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Re: Belgium help please, Van de poel
« Reply #30 on: Wednesday 20 January 21 01:18 GMT (UK) »
Ohhh, I don't have them, yes please if you don't mind sharing them? Also does it give any more info on hendrikus occupation or anything? Wonder why they divorced?
Oh my days that's incredibly fascinating!! So let me get this right JFJ van de poel was illegitimate? (does it say cause of death on death certificate by the way?)
And his father was JB van de poel who enlisted in the French army and was never seen from again??!!
Also what does it say abit JFJ military records?
I am soooooo sorry to out all this on you! But can't thankyou enough for your help xx

I'll check the Rotterdam records again tomorrow.
It seems that JB Van de Poel left when she was pregnant or had a small child and never returned. Perhaps they planned to get married, who knows?
I'll look again if there's a cause of death but often there isn't.
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Re: Belgium help please, Van de poel
« Reply #31 on: Wednesday 20 January 21 11:14 GMT (UK) »
Date/location: 29th August 1906,  Rotterdam
Groom: Hendrikus Johannes Jacobus Smit, aged 27, dock labourer, born in Brielle, living in Rotterdam, "meerderjarige" (full age = above 21) son of Johannes Smit, dock worker and Magdalena Jakoba Poldervaart, no occupation, both living in Rotterdam
Bride: Ludovica Roofthooft (Belgian subject), aged 19, no profession, born in Herentals (Belgium), living in Rotterdam, "minderjarige" (=under 21) daughter of Petrus Franciscus Roofthooft, occupation "houtkoopersknecht" (some kind of lumberman job) and Anna Elisabeth Maes, no profession, both living in Rotterdam
The mother of the groom and both parents of the bride, present at the wedding, gave their consent to the marriage, While with regard to the father of the bridegroom the intervention of the cantonal judge in the third canton of Rotterdam has taken place. (More drama?!)

There's also a note added later saying the couple divorced.


Daughter Magdalene Ludovica Smit born on 22nd January 1907 in Rotterdam
Son Jan Franciscus Hendrikus Smit born on 18th February 1908 in Rotterdam
Son Victor Petrus Franciscus Smit born on 23rd February 1910 in Rotterdam
Son Jan Franciscus Hendrikus Smith died on 15th May 1910 in Rotterdam aged 2

It seems Hendrikus got remarried in 1929.
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Re: Belgium help please, Van de poel
« Reply #32 on: Wednesday 20 January 21 13:03 GMT (UK) »
Oh my, that's an interesting family!!
I wonder what the father was in trouble for at the wedding?? Ohhhh, this is brilliant! So much detail!
Thankyou so much for the birth records too.
I have Ludovicas identity card from the 1930s, she lived with Frans and Magdalena until she died.
Ahhh did he remarry? I shall see if I can find it(unless you're free too?)
So many questions haha
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Re: Belgium help please, Van de poel
« Reply #33 on: Wednesday 20 January 21 13:38 GMT (UK) »
Oh my, that's an interesting family!!
I wonder what the father was in trouble for at the wedding?? Ohhhh, this is brilliant! So much detail!
Thankyou so much for the birth records too.
I have Ludovicas identity card from the 1930s, she lived with Frans and Magdalena until she died.
Ahhh did he remarry? I shall see if I can find it(unless you're free too?)
So many questions haha
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I'll see what I can find out about his 2nd marriage.
Did you want help looking into Ludovica Roofthooft's Flemish ancestors?
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Re: Belgium help please, Van de poel
« Reply #34 on: Wednesday 20 January 21 13:58 GMT (UK) »
Ye splease if you don't mind? Anything in the Netherlands is easier than the Flemish side 🤣🤣🤣🤣They've been my block for absolutely years!!!! Xx
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Re: Belgium help please, Van de poel
« Reply #35 on: Wednesday 20 January 21 15:06 GMT (UK) »
Ye splease if you don't mind? Anything in the Netherlands is easier than the Flemish side 🤣🤣🤣🤣They've been my block for absolutely years!!!! Xx

I'll see what I can find and get back to you tonight.
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