Sarah AnnWade

[Ladyhawk]

Thank you everyone for your replies, I still wonder.....

a) Who is William Wade and why cannot I find a record of any marriage certificate after all he is named as father on Elizabeth and on Williams marriage certificate

b) Walter Wade is shown as father on both Charlotte and Eliza’s marriage certificate

c) Who is Harry Wade, he is shown as ‘son’ of Sarah with the rest of the family on 1901 census?

a) As Sarah's children appear to be illegitimate I wonder whether she gave the name of her father William on their baptism record, the 1871 census her father's occupation looks to be corn porter address 5 Grantham St

b) Have you looked for a Walter Wade on the census to see if you can find one with occupation moulder?

c) I wonder if Harry might be a grandchild of Sarah's rather than son, Edith was originally shown as dau on 1891 census

[daisychain 89]

Thank you Ladyhawk, I did wonder if Sarah did put her fathers name on baptism records,

Harry could be a Grandchild, Edith is definitely a granddaughter, her mother is Annie, also unmarried at the time, Annie was my husbands Grandmother!

I will continues looking for Walter, not sure the Bradford connection is correct, there is no records of anyone in the family living anywhere but Leeds.

[Ladyhawk]

Have brought this together from info. posted here showing Sarah Ann Wade from Baptism,
with parents and then with her children & grandchildren - not sure when she died

Even though she is noted as Widowed on 1891 & 1901 censuses and dau Charlotte's baptism record it doesn't appear that she married
   
Sarah Ann Wade Birth 13 Aug 1850
Baptism 1 Sep 1850 Leeds, St Peter, Yorkshire,
Father: William Wade occ warehouseman Mother: Eliza

1851 Piece: 2319 Folio: 432 Page 135
Fenton’s Court, Leeds
William Wade   30 occ corn porter
Eliza Wade   27
Sarah Wade   7 Mo
All born Leeds

1861 Piece:   3373 Folio:   79 Page Number:   9
64 Grantham St., Leeds
William Wade   44 labourer
Eliza Wade   35
Sarah Wade   Dau 11
Samuel Boulton   16
All born Leeds

1871 Piece:   4545 Folio:   78 Page number:   18
5 Grantham Street
William Wade 55 occ corn porter
Eliza Wade 48   Wife
Sarah A Wade   20   Daughter

1881 Piece:   4512 Folio:   92 Page Number:   16
8 Grantham St
Eliza Wade   58 widow Head charwoman
Sarah Wade   30 unm dau.         ditto
Annie Wade   10 Granddau. {bpt shows mother Sarah spinster - Grantham St.}
Elizabeth Wade   7  Ditto.         {bpt. same day father named William, occ porter, Grantham St}
William Wade   3 Grandson    { "        "               "                  "              "             "}

Then by 1891 Sarah is noted as a widow

1891 Census
Grantham Street 
Sarah   Wade  Head  W   39   Charwoman 
Annie            Dau   S   19   Machinist   
Elizabeth      Dau   16   Tinner     
William         Son   14               
Charlotte      Dau    6    {baptism says Sarah widowed several years ago, Grantham St.,} 
Eliza ?           dau.    4 (very faint image see reply 14)       
Edith             Dau    9m (noted as GD on 1901c-  bpt shows she is dau of Annie, Grantham St)   

1901 census Piece:   4204 Folio:   105 Page Number:   1
41 Moore St
Sarah Wade   Head Wid. 46, charwoman
William Wade   Son 23 carver wood
Eliza Wade       Dau 13
Edith Wade   Granddau 10
Harry Wade   son 7 (not found a baptism to confirm mother's name)
all born Leeds

[Ladyhawk]

It is strange that the girls have given their father's name as Walter 

That is the correct marriage detail for Edith dob on her death record matches dob on her baptism record & 1939 register

Edith Orgill age 85 Birth 3 Jul 1890 Mar 1976  Leeds Volume:   5 Page:   0998

Annie Wade age 22, Cross St., Mill St.,
17 Mar 1894 Leeds, St Peter
Father:   Walter Wade, occ moulder
Spouse:   Robert William Greenwood

Elizabeth Wade age 24, Cross St
Marriage 9 Sep 1899 Leeds, St Peter, Yorkshire
Father:   Walter Wade occ moulder
Spouse:   Arthur Darlow

Charlotte Wade age 24, Czar St., Holbeck
Marriage 20 Aug 1910 Leeds, St Peter
Father:   Walter Wade, occ moulder
Spouse:   James Clark

and this one for an Edith her father Walter Wade occ soap worker

Edith Wade age 22, 21 Albury Terrace
Marriage    3 Aug 1912 Hunslet, St Jude, Yorkshire
Spouse:   William Henry Orgill

[daisychain 89]

Thank you Ladyhawk for your reply and for presenting it in a way that makes it easy to understand. I think it would appear that Sarah never married, Grantham Street seems to confirm that, as it looks as though she still lived in the family house even after having the children, she must have put her fathers name on some birth certificates to appear ‘respectable’. So goodness knows who Walter Wade is. Strange that Edith is illegitimate to Annie, Annie did go on to marry and have other children including my Mother in Law also called Annie, but Edith was a lot older than the other children and always a bit of an outsider according to my Mother in Law who lived to be 95!

Thank you again

Brenda

[Ladyhawk]

Thank you Ladyhawk for your reply and for presenting it in a way that makes it easy to understand.

 I think it would appear that Sarah never married, Grantham Street seems to confirm that, as it looks as though she still lived in the family house even after having the children, she must have put her fathers name on some birth certificates to appear ‘respectable’.

So goodness knows who Walter Wade is.

Strange that Edith is illegitimate to Annie, Annie did go on to marry and have other children including my Mother in Law also called Annie, but Edith was a lot older than the other children and always a bit of an outsider according to my Mother in Law who lived to be 95!

You are welcome 

Just in case you don't have it William's burial

William Wade age 64, Labourer, address Grantham Street
Burial 8 Feb 1880 Leeds, Beckett Street Cemetery

I couldn't find a baptism for Harry Wade age 7 on 1901 census

I also noticed that there was an Eliza Wade age 13 noted as daughter to Sarah but Eliza is not on the 1891 census with them

Added

Eliza Wade Age 58, widow, address Grantham Street, Leeds
Burial 14 Nov 1886 Leeds, West Yorkshire

I've amended my post with 1891 census as there does appear to be dau Eliza age 4 with them on 1891c - image is very faint so have added a snippet here

Eliza's birth reg 1888 J quarter Leeds mmn blank and she married in 1915 naming her father as
Walter Wade occ Moulder

Eliza Wade age 27, Pleasant Grove Holbeck
Marriage 3 Apr 1915 Leeds, St Peter, Yorkshire
Spouse:   George Bowler

[Calverley Lad]

Eliza Wade confirmed burial with 17others (unrelated) grave No 11293.
William Wade confirmed burial with 5others (unrelated) grave No 3914.
 Brian

[daisychain 89]

Thank you Calverley Lad, can you tell me where they were buried, Brenda

[Ladyhawk]

Thank you Calverley Lad, can you tell me where they were buried, Brenda

The burials were at Beckett Street Cemetery

Here’s some info. about the Cemetery although there’s no plan
https://wyascatablogue.wordpress.com/2015/10/21/beckett-street-cemetery-records-online/

Just in case you don't have it William's burial

William Wade age 64, Labourer, address Grantham Street
Burial 8 Feb 1880 Leeds, Beckett Street Cemetery

and

Eliza Wade Age 58, widow, address Grantham Street, Leeds
Burial 14 Nov 1886 Leeds, West Yorkshire

Eliza Wade confirmed burial with 17others (unrelated) grave No 11293.

William Wade confirmed burial with 5others (unrelated) grave No 3914.