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Re: Williams family
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 30 January 21 12:58 GMT (UK) »
That is the correct family in their tree, but additional info in post.  David John has birthdates that are diffrent in trees connected to him. Would like to verify approx dob as cannot find him in Wales with the info they give, there are a lot of discrepancies that cannot be verified.

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Squire/Thomas/Davies/Gibbons/Mordecai/Bowen/Lewis/Rees/Williams/Jones/Llewellyn/Morgan - Glamorgan
Lewis - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd/Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: Williams family
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 30 January 21 13:04 GMT (UK) »
Names are reversed on the death record of the son David Henry Williams - 1 February 1968 -  father listed as John David Williams (birth place not known)  ???  mother Sarah E Slater.

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Re: Williams family
« Reply #20 on: Saturday 30 January 21 13:23 GMT (UK) »
David John Williams - 17 October 1847 - died 29 January 1917 Bingham Idaho - farmer -
Father John Williams -  Mother Gwen Edwards - informant J W Williams  ???

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Re: Williams family
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 30 January 21 13:51 GMT (UK) »
Don't think I will ever sort this.

I have a DNA connection to the Wardle family through my x 4 great grandfather Rees Lewis his great grandau is Sarah Elizabeth Slater who married D J Williams.

Problem I have a known DNA connection to my Rees family line. (Ellen / Ellenor Rees who married David Williams) who also connects through DNA in shared matches to the Wardle family. But is connected verified through the Rees family. ??? 

So was hoping there was a son of Ellen / Ellenor Williams nee Rees that would fit. ???  I have 2 lines crossing somewhere.

What a conundrum!

Thank you Sandra for your time, effort & info for both the William families, much appreciated.

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Census information is Crown Copyright www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Squire/Thomas/Davies/Gibbons/Mordecai/Bowen/Lewis/Rees/Williams/Jones/Llewellyn/Morgan - Glamorgan
Lewis - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd/Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland


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Re: Williams family
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 30 January 21 14:12 GMT (UK) »
Noticed on death certificate of Sarah Elizabeth Williams, her mother was Janet Edwards.
On the death cert for David Williams, his mother was Gwen Edwards.  Wonder if there is a link there ?

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QGR8-JT4Q

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Re: Williams family
« Reply #24 on: Saturday 30 January 21 14:28 GMT (UK) »
Cannot find a marriage within timeframe for named John Williams to Gwen / Gwenllian Edwards.  It still would not connect to the Rees line. Both families were in different areas of Wales.

Jennet/Janet Edwards was the dau of Elizabeth Lewis, dau of Rees Lewis with his first wife. My line is his 2nd wife. I have 4 DNA matches from Elizabeth's daughters.

Been scratching my head on this for a while. Appreciate any other thoughts or input.

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Census information is Crown Copyright www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Squire/Thomas/Davies/Gibbons/Mordecai/Bowen/Lewis/Rees/Williams/Jones/Llewellyn/Morgan - Glamorgan
Lewis - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd/Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: Williams family
« Reply #25 on: Saturday 30 January 21 14:32 GMT (UK) »

Obituary of William Slater - father of Sarah Elizabeth/Elizabeth Sarah nee Slater Williams

The Ogden Standard Ogden, Utah 18 Oct 1915, Mon    Page 6

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/68898162/william-slater-18-october-1915/

FIND A GRAVE

William Slater -    

Huntsville Cemetery Huntsville, Weber County, Utah.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/42901524/william-slater


mother - Jenette Edwards Slater - 1843 - 1910

Huntsville Cemetery Huntsville, Weber County, Utah.
PLOT   1-3-2

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/43773006/jenette-slater

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Re: Williams family
« Reply #26 on: Saturday 30 January 21 14:37 GMT (UK) »
Coincidence maybe but if this was the Edwards Family in 1851 Merthyr Tydfil. A brother had "Rees" as a first name ?

HO107 Piece 2458 Folio 154 Page 23


Thomas Edwards   52 Elizabeth Edwards   42
Rees Edwards   15
Margaret Edwards   11 Jennet Edwards   8
Elizabeth Edwards   5 Thomas Edwards   2
Mary Edwards   18

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although it is spelt Reese by the time he passed away in 1910

FIND A GRAVE

1835 - 1910

Ogden City Cemetery Ogden, Weber County, Utah
PLOT   2A-6-3-5E

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/124567641/reese-edwards

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Interesting read....

http://welshmormon.byu.edu/Resource_Info.aspx?id=2210

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