Hornsey Workhouse

[RosieG88]

Does anyone have an idea why two young children, whose family lived in Clerkenwell, would have died in Hornsey Workhouse in August 1830?  They died on consecutive days so I assume they had some kind of infectious disease, but wonder why they were admitted miles from home when there was a workhouse at Clerkenwell.  Thank you.

[anpefa1]

hello Rosie,
Islington and Hornsey are not far apart geographically, it could be that anyone with an ailment would be allocated to one or the other workhouses. initially, I would suggest that you look online for information on those workhouses and then check the records at the London Metropolitan Archives, which body hold workhouse records.

Obviously you will not be able to visit this establishment at present and I'm not sure if you can access records online.

Either way, I, an other rootschatters do access LMA records in person and hopefully in the near future we may be able to assist you.

Tony         

[RosieG88]

Thank you very much Tony, I will try to find out more about the two workhouses and how/if they related.

[anpefa1]

hello Rosie,
for now, key in workhouse records on your computer, it will throw up ways to access records, for The National Archives (TNA) London Metropolitan Archives (LMA) etc, you will have to register and you may (likely) have to pay for access to records but in the meantime this should give you some progress until the lockdown allows users physical access to assist you. Tony   

 

[Bookbox]

Hello RosieG88, and welcome to RootsChat

The family’s place of legal settlement may have played a part in their being admitted to Hornsey, regardless of the distance from where they lived.

For example, they may have applied to Clerkenwell for poor relief, but if the father’s parish of legal settlement was Hornsey, the children might have been removed there. It’s just a possibility, but it could be pursued by checking for any workhouse admissions for them to Clerkenwell, and/or any subsequent removal orders from Clerkenwell to Hornsey.

The poor-law records for Clerkenwell for this date are not at London Metropolitan Archives, nor at the National Archives. They are at Islington Local History Library, where they are indexed, abstracted and easy to use, or you may be able to arrange for a lookup when the library re-opens.

https://www.islington.gov.uk/libraries-arts-and-heritage/heritage/local-history-centre

Some early Clerkenwell poor-law records are also online at FamilySearch, but you need to be at an LDS Family History Centre or affiliate library to access them there.

I’m not aware of any surviving poor law or workhouse records for Hornsey at this date.

[jonw65]

No names given, sorry if wrong people, but possibly
Edward Noyce, age 7 yrs
Richard Noyce, age 5 yrs
Both buried at St Mary Hornsey, 19 August 1830. Abode Workhouse.

Baptisms?
Edward (son of) Edward + Elizabeth Noyce, 21 July 1822, St Leonard Shoreditch. Born 10 May 22. Father a Labourer.
Would make him 8 rather than 7 when he died.

Richard, son of Edward + Elizabeth Noyce, 31 July 1825, St Michael Crooked Lane. Born 4 July 25. Father a Waiter.
In between those, in 1823, at St Michael Crooked Lane, was Elizabeth. Father Edward Noyce a Porter.

Later a double baptism at St James Clerkenwell, 8 April 1832
George, born 10 Aug 1828
Elisha, born 29 July 1831
Parents Edward + Elizabeth Noyce
Abode Little Grays Inn Lane
Father a Porter
Day Book of Baptisms here
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJW-X9ZV-Q

Doesn't really tell us where they were in 1830.
Little Grays Inn Lane is in the parish of St Andrew Holborn.
Family seem to be in Pancras in 1841.
John