John Godfrey Powell b1859 West Derby/Liverpool and parents

[ShaunJ]

Isabella Jane Patterson
Birth   2 Nov 1852
Baptism 24 Dec 1852 at the Old Church, Saint Pancras

Parents Alexander and Isabella

[RayMilBax]

Garstonite - John being the Father of John Godfrey is still up in the air - 2 records (his marriage in 1878 and baptism (47 after his birth) both state John but nothing is confirming it at the moment.
Thanks for your efforts

[RayMilBax]

Found them in 1851 - Isabella with Alexander Patterson in Liverpool 
At the minute I'm at a loss as to who on earth John Powell is - he's mentioned as John Godfrey Powell's Father on his marriage in 1878 and referred to on his baptism in 1906 as his father and the other children Godfrey 1862, Ellen Maud 1866 and Lizzie 1867 births are registered as Powell but he's like a ghost in every other aspect! 

[ShaunJ]

Patterson/Wilson marriage in Stepney, 1849

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/1623/images/31280_194765-00075?pId=6438773

[ShaunJ]

It's probably safe to say that John Powell was the father of the Liverpool-born children - but perhaps he's out of the picture by 1871. As I said, if it was me I'd be ordering the 1859 birth certificate.

[RayMilBax]

Yes I would agree ShaunJ

We've bottomed out Isabella's life and there's a Powell somewhere in the mix certainly between 1858 and 1867 and yes I would agree he has seemingly bit the dust by 1871 like Alexander Patterson must have done prior to 1858.

I'll order the birth certificate and thanks for all your help 

[garstonite]

does this help in any way ? 
address Low Hill - the top of Liverpool City Centre - and Alexander is a Master Mariner

Baptism: 26 Nov 1854 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Helen Alice Patterson - [Child] of Alexander Patterson & Isabella
    Born: 27 Jun 1854
    Abode: Low Hill
    Occupation: Master Mariner
    Baptised by: Henry Brooks, Curate
ADDED
I was wondering why Ray hadn't mentioned Helen Alice Patterson in the 1861 census
found this
Deaths Mar 1855   
Patterson    Alexander        Liverpool    8b   205

Deaths Dec 1855 
Patterson    Helen Alice        Liverpool    8b   145    
so poor isabella lost her husband and her daughter in the same year

[garstonite]

I wonder if this is a possible brother to John Godfrey Powell ?- 12-15 months after Alexanders death..


Name:   
Alexander Powell
Event Type:   
Birth Registration
Registration Quarter:   
Apr-May-Jun
Registration Year:   
1856
Registration District:   
Liverpool
County:   
Lancashire
Event Place:   
Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Volume:   
8B
Affiliate Line Number:   
34
might be worth checking who the parents were ??
ADDED - scrap that one
father John
mother Elisabeth  baptised 25th May 1856 at St Nicholas ,Liverpool - excuse the ignorance - but did some people call Isabella  - Elisabeth

[ShaunJ]

On the 8 August last, at Rio Bento, Africa, aged 29 years, Captain Alexander Patterson, of the Earl Derby. Deceased had survived two attacks of fever, and was partially convalescent but was eventually carried off by diarrhoea......

Liverpool Mail, 18 November 1854, page 7