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Re: Searching for Mabel Boyd
« Reply #36 on: Thursday 11 March 21 18:48 GMT (UK) »
Apropos of nothing in particular (always wanted to say that!)
Wellington Journal, 4, 11, 18 March 1896
GIRL Wanted, at once, about 16; comfortable home, three in family—Address Mrs. Davies, No. 18, Oswald Road, Oswestry.

The son George Thomas Davies seems to be registered in Oswestry, Dec qtr 1899, mother Jones.
Baptized 17 Dec 1899
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:7TFJ-J4W2

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Re: Searching for Mabel Boyd
« Reply #37 on: Thursday 11 March 21 18:51 GMT (UK) »
I don't have Ancestry or findmypast at the moment so can't do lookups, but is everybody dismissing the surviving Scots-born Mabel Boyds? Far away, but so is London - would anybody like to look them up? Ireland too is a possibility - lots of Boyds there.

The Mabel Boyd who marries in 1900 could still be the one - a quick retreat from Oswestry but the same applies to the London one.

As a north-east Wales historian I can tell you that expecting two people called Davies to be related is way off - far too common a name and Llangollen is not that near Oswestry. But Ellen Boyd is promising - anyone find her in a census giving her birthplace? I can see that if Mabel was helping she could claim boarding house keeper  as her profession - otherwise most of the candidates are far too young for that job, surely?


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Re: Searching for Mabel Boyd
« Reply #38 on: Thursday 11 March 21 18:58 GMT (UK) »
Just out of curiosity I looked up 5 Paradise Row, Chester in the 1891 census.

I see that the head of the household is an Ellen William, single, Lodging House Keeper.  So the address seems to have been a Lodging/Boarding house between 1891 and 1901.

It doesn't say 5 Paradise Row on the transcription but if you check the image it has 5 on there.

Registration district   Chester
Archive reference   RG12
Piece number   2864
Folio   84
Page   2

So as I suggested in an earlier post, could be where Mabel had Dorothy.
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: Searching for Mabel Boyd
« Reply #39 on: Thursday 11 March 21 18:59 GMT (UK) »
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XW36-PHK

that is Ellen and her family on the 1911 census, her maiden name was Edwards (MMN from births of all her children)

The family were at 11 Egerton St, Chester from 1881 to 1911 .

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Re: Searching for Mabel Boyd
« Reply #40 on: Thursday 11 March 21 19:07 GMT (UK) »
That'll be Rhosesmor near Mold. But the Boyd name comes from a man born the other side of the country. Yet more complications!
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Re: Searching for Mabel Boyd
« Reply #41 on: Thursday 11 March 21 19:17 GMT (UK) »
Ellen Edwards only married Boyd in 1876 and eldest William doesn't seem to be registered as a Boyd (not that I'm finding him nearby as an illegitimate Edwards either). Perhaps Mabel was another of Ellen's before her marriage? (nothing much nearby though)
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Re: Searching for Mabel Boyd
« Reply #42 on: Thursday 11 March 21 19:23 GMT (UK) »
Chris - You sure William wasn't registered?  There is this birth on the GRO

BOYD, WILLIAM  ROBERT WRIGHT    EDWARDS 
GRO Reference: 1878  M Quarter in CHESTER  Volume 08A  Page 399
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: Searching for Mabel Boyd
« Reply #43 on: Thursday 11 March 21 19:30 GMT (UK) »
sorry - was counting back from 1901 not 1911. Senior moment.

8 years as a big gap though - but they seem to have 2 daughters inbetween, neither a Mabel.

Doesn't rule out the illegitimate earlier daughter theory.
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Re: Searching for Mabel Boyd
« Reply #44 on: Thursday 11 March 21 19:37 GMT (UK) »
Apropos of nothing in particular (always wanted to say that!)
Wellington Journal, 4, 11, 18 March 1896
GIRL Wanted, at once, about 16; comfortable home, three in family—Address Mrs. Davies, No. 18, Oswald Road, Oswestry.

The son George Thomas Davies seems to be registered in Oswestry, Dec qtr 1899, mother Jones.
Baptized 17 Dec 1899
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:7TFJ-J4W2

Mrs. Davies is who adopted Dorothy and the address is where Mabel gave birth so if she was looking for a 16 year old, can we assume she got one? Which would give us a better idea of the approx year of Mabel’s birth.