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Re: 1841 census Clowes Buildings, Hunt's Bank, Manchester
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 11 March 21 14:24 GMT (UK) »
Francis was a widower when he married Mary in 1838 which accounts for the 1841 entry showing children born before 1838.  Their Ruben (spelling on entry) was 9mths old whereas the other Reuben was 6mths old.

The 6mth old appears to be with parents James & Elizabeth but no other birth reg.

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I have found no other record for this Reuben. Either he wasn't registered or his birth registration hasn't been transcribed and added to the online databases. I tend to believe the latter. I have come across few ancestors where they have proven very difficult to track.

I will research these 10 further. They don't seem to be transcribed in family order as usual but I tend to believe they are all connected. They may not even be connected to my family but the fact there is a Reuben requires me to continue digging.

Thank you.
Salkeld - Alston, Grassington, Earby, Burnley
Brotherton - Burnley, Barnoldswick
Layfield - Burnley
Child - Bradford
Payne - Poulton Le Fylde, Burnley, Brierfield
Harris - Castle Bytham, Nelson, Barrowford
Sage - Boxted, Langham, West Riding, Lancashire
Hastie - Lanarkshire
Gillon - Lanarkshire

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Re: 1841 census Clowes Buildings, Hunt's Bank, Manchester
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 11 March 21 14:52 GMT (UK) »
It’s puzzling.  I thought at first that Thomas may have been his grandfather & Reuben had been entered at each address but the 1838 marriage entry with father as James kicked that theory into touch!!
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Re: 1841 census Clowes Buildings, Hunt's Bank, Manchester
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 11 March 21 15:08 GMT (UK) »
They are all dittoed so maybe not the same surname.

There is a baptism
14th March 1841
Reuben Nicholson with parents James, a Hatter and Betsey.

A marriage 23rd December 1840
James Nicholson, Hatter, Oldham Road and Betsey Greenall, Hunts Bank.

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The age isn’t right though :-\
Birth March quarter 1841 Reuben Nicholson
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Re: 1841 census Clowes Buildings, Hunt's Bank, Manchester
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 11 March 21 22:36 GMT (UK) »
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The age isn’t right though :-\
Birth March quarter 1841 Reuben Nicholson

It fits.  1841 census was taken in June so if he was born early January and birth registered March qtr - 6mths old would just about fit

I think you have solved that mystery Heywood - particularly given James occupation
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Re: 1841 census Clowes Buildings, Hunt's Bank, Manchester
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 11 March 21 22:54 GMT (UK) »
That’s good to know, Carole.
 I was thinking the census was April or maybe Reuben was six weeks rather than six months.

Yes, I think it should be Nicholson - the names, the occupation and the address all support that.
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Re: 1841 census Clowes Buildings, Hunt's Bank, Manchester
« Reply #14 on: Friday 12 March 21 00:51 GMT (UK) »
That’s good to know, Carole.
 I was thinking the census was April or maybe Reuben was six weeks rather than six months.

Yes, I think it should be Nicholson - the names, the occupation and the address all support that.

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So which of them is a Brotherton, please?

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Salkeld - Alston, Grassington, Earby, Burnley
Brotherton - Burnley, Barnoldswick
Layfield - Burnley
Child - Bradford
Payne - Poulton Le Fylde, Burnley, Brierfield
Harris - Castle Bytham, Nelson, Barrowford
Sage - Boxted, Langham, West Riding, Lancashire
Hastie - Lanarkshire
Gillon - Lanarkshire

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Re: 1841 census Clowes Buildings, Hunt's Bank, Manchester
« Reply #15 on: Friday 12 March 21 00:57 GMT (UK) »
Neither.  Wrongly transcribed.  See reply 11 above.  Enumerator has incorrectly “dittoed” names as Brotherton
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Re: 1841 census Clowes Buildings, Hunt's Bank, Manchester
« Reply #16 on: Friday 12 March 21 01:04 GMT (UK) »
Neither.  Wrongly transcribed.  See reply 11 above.  Enumerator has incorrectly “dittoed” names as Brotherton

Where has Brotherton come from then? Sorry, am I being a bit dim? If they have been dittoed isn't there a correct entry.

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Salkeld - Alston, Grassington, Earby, Burnley
Brotherton - Burnley, Barnoldswick
Layfield - Burnley
Child - Bradford
Payne - Poulton Le Fylde, Burnley, Brierfield
Harris - Castle Bytham, Nelson, Barrowford
Sage - Boxted, Langham, West Riding, Lancashire
Hastie - Lanarkshire
Gillon - Lanarkshire

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Re: 1841 census Clowes Buildings, Hunt's Bank, Manchester
« Reply #17 on: Friday 12 March 21 01:50 GMT (UK) »
The way the image reads is:

Tho Brotherton      29     Porter         yes
Mary (do)              30    Wife              no
Richd (do)             21   Railway Guard     yes
Margt  (do)           12                      yes
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Martha (do)          5     nothing       yes
James  (do)         30    Hatter         yes
Elizth(do)             27                       yes
Reuben (do)      6months             yes