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Re: British Army, Worldwide Index 1861 - New Zealand service
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 17 March 21 01:52 GMT (UK) »

William Kerr  /  Service No.   696  /  Rank: Private  /  Unit or Reg't: 1st Btn 12th Foot (East Suffolk) 1st Detachment  /  Reg't stationed at: Otahuhu New Zealand  (TNA ref:  WO12 / 2983)


Does anyone have access to "Discharged in New Zealand" (HUGHES, Hugh //HUGHES, Lynn) to check if this man remained in NZ ?    :) 

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Re: British Army, Worldwide Index 1861 - New Zealand service
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 17 March 21 02:28 GMT (UK) »
Pte William Kerr #696 born Dutton, Shoemaker, enlisted 17 May 1859, discharged on payment NZ, 14 March 1867, HMS Fawn.
page 14 ‘Discharged in NZ’, Hugh and Lyn Hughes, 1988.
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Re: British Army, Worldwide Index 1861 - New Zealand service
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 17 March 21 04:55 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for the info, gladyseva ... I'm sure that will be helpful in this search.   :)

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Re: British Army, Worldwide Index 1861 - New Zealand service
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 17 March 21 06:21 GMT (UK) »
Thank you all for your assistance and suggestions. 

My person of interest was a private so I suspect he was not the man who wrote to the newspaper.  However, the information about his discharge is clearly him (thanks gladyseva & Lucy2) - has same service number and rank.  (It's great to learn his birthplace, which I now need to try to confirm. Looks like there was a Dutton in Cheshire and another in Lancashire, and maybe more.)

Regarding his military record, I have checked the 'Original Medal Roll' for 12th Reg (on newzealandmedals.com) but can't see him listed.  I wonder why?  Any suggestions of other sites where he might be listed.

Thanks again

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Re: British Army, Worldwide Index 1861 - New Zealand service
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 17 March 21 20:48 GMT (UK) »
Hi Shortcut,

If you think the Maori War file mentioned by Minniehaha in Reply#5 above refers to your man I can get photos of it for you.

The Maori War file series are applications by men who served in colonial military (not Imperial regiments) units for the New Zealand Medal. Before ordering the file it will be best to search Stowers’ New Zealand Medal to Colonials. I can do that once I’m back from holiday in a week, unless someone else has the book.

Beautiful sunny day here in Dunedin!

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ELLERKER - Beverley ERY ENG
HEALEY - IRL?
MURDOCH - Wigtownshire SCT, Otago and Westland NZ
PALING - Nottinghamshire ENG
RILEY - Flamborough; Cottingham; South Dalton ERY, Manitoba CAN, & London ENG
STURTON - Arnold, Nottinghamshire ENG
SUTTRON - All, NRY & DUR ENG
TAYLOR - London ENG
TYLER - London ENG
TERNAN/TIERNAN - Dublin IRL

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Re: British Army, Worldwide Index 1861 - New Zealand service
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 31 March 21 12:12 BST (UK) »
Hi spades, thank you for your offer to check the Stowers' information.  I look forward to seeing if anything relates to my man.

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Re: British Army, Worldwide Index 1861 - New Zealand service
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 01 April 21 02:27 BST (UK) »
Hi Shortcut,

There are two entries for a William KERR in Stowers' Discharged in New Zealand, the entry below and another for a William A KERR of the Wellington Rangers who was killed in action at Te Ngutu o te Manu on 21 August 1868 (page 153).

Stangely, the Maori War record I'll get for you doesn't appear to be for either of these men.

Do you have any other information about the William KERR you are seeking, such as date or place of death?

New Zealand Medal to Colonials. Detailed medal rolls of officers and men in colonial units who received the New Zealand Medal for service in the New Zealand Wars 1845-1872. (10th ed.) Stowers, 2010.
p.42
Unit:                  Colonial Defence Force – Auckland Squadron
Name:                  KERR, William
Rank:                  Private, No. 1 Troop (14 July 1863-29 July 1864)
Where joined unit and period of service:    -
Rank & period of service with other units:   -
Address at time of medal claim:         Westwood Terrace, Christchurch.
Actions:   Rangiaowhia 21 Feb 1864, Te Ranga 21 Aug 1864.
Date & place of Birth:            -   
Career (on enlistment):            -
Date of death:               -
Ship travelled to New Zealand:         -      
Year of Gazette notice:            
AD36/3 or Medal Register number:      3263
Archives NZ file reference:         AD32/392
Note:                   Issued 1913.

The Auckland Squadron of the Colonial Defence Force was also known as the Auckland Cavalry Volunteers. As a unit present at skirmishes around Paterangi and Te Rore Feb 1864, Rangiaowhia 21 Feb 1864, Hairini 22 Feb 1864, Orakau 31 Mar to 2 April 1864 (present at charge 2 Feb 1864), Maketu and Matata April 1864 (few), Te Ranga 21 June 1864. Duties included dispatch riding, scouting and patrolling.

Spades
ELLERKER - Beverley ERY ENG
HEALEY - IRL?
MURDOCH - Wigtownshire SCT, Otago and Westland NZ
PALING - Nottinghamshire ENG
RILEY - Flamborough; Cottingham; South Dalton ERY, Manitoba CAN, & London ENG
STURTON - Arnold, Nottinghamshire ENG
SUTTRON - All, NRY & DUR ENG
TAYLOR - London ENG
TYLER - London ENG
TERNAN/TIERNAN - Dublin IRL

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Re: British Army, Worldwide Index 1861 - New Zealand service
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 07 April 21 02:50 BST (UK) »
Hi Shortcut,

I have the file for you.

Can you please PM me with your email address.

Spades
ELLERKER - Beverley ERY ENG
HEALEY - IRL?
MURDOCH - Wigtownshire SCT, Otago and Westland NZ
PALING - Nottinghamshire ENG
RILEY - Flamborough; Cottingham; South Dalton ERY, Manitoba CAN, & London ENG
STURTON - Arnold, Nottinghamshire ENG
SUTTRON - All, NRY & DUR ENG
TAYLOR - London ENG
TYLER - London ENG
TERNAN/TIERNAN - Dublin IRL

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Re: British Army, Worldwide Index 1861 - New Zealand service
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 11 April 21 22:45 BST (UK) »
Spades,
Reply #15
Would you have any objection if I added the info about William Kerr to my "List of Participants at Gate Pa and Te Ranga - 1864"?
I am always on the look out for additional information  to add to my database.
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