John Thomas Wilson

[briann1]

Cheers I’ve been looking for that marriage he has a daughter Sarah Ann Slater aged 3 in 1871 census, but he and Sarah are living with his sister in 1881 Charlotte Porter then he’s back with wife Elizabeth in 1891

[Ladyhawk]

Marriage of Enoch Wilson & Elizabeth Slater in 1870

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NVY6-KRJ

For info. from Derbyshire, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1932

His marriage available to view

Enoch’s occupation brick layer father Thomas, occ farmer
witnesses Charlotte Porter & John Slater
Elizabeth made her mark (x), her father Edward brick maker

And also these marriages, can provide further details if you don’t have access to Anc*y, their father Enoch occ brick layer

Hannah Wilson age 19 married on 22 Dec 1889 Darley Spouse Robert Carnell

Bessie Wilson age 20 married on 24 Nov 1895 Matlock Bank, Spouse George Carline

Rose Wilson age 18 married on 9 Sep 1899 Matlock, Spouse Job Buckley
father deceased

Mary Alice Wilson age 19 married 25 Dec 1903 Matlock, Spouse Henry Spencer
father deceased

There are these 3 Baptisms at Newbold Derbyshire details from Derbyshire, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1916 parents Enoch, bricklayer & Elizabeth

Bessie Wilson    13 Feb 1876 born 5 Nov 1874
Charlotte Wilson 24 Mar 1878 born 21 Mar 1878
Rose Wilson      1 Mar 1881 born 4 Dec 1880

and these Wilson burials

Charlotte Wilson age 1
Burial 2 Dec 1878 Newbold, Derbyshire Abode St John’s Road

Enoch Wilson age 48 abode Matlock Bank
Burial 12 May 1899 Matlock, Derbyshire
details from Derbyshire, England, Church of England Burials, 1813-1991

he has a daughter Sarah Ann Slater aged 3 in 1871 census, but he and Sarah are living with his sister in 1881 Charlotte Porter then he’s back with wife Elizabeth in 1891

1871c Piece:3611 Folio:136 Page 12
Old Brick Yard
Enoch Wilson         20 Head occ bricklayer   
Elizabeth Wilson         22 wife   
Sarah Ann Wilson   3 dau
all born Newbold

1881c Piece: 3451 Folio:26 Page 16
Matlock Green
John Porter                    42
Charlotte PORTER        41
Enoch WILSON          29 mar. brother in law, occ bricklayer
Sarah A. SLATER       13 Niece Gen Serv Dom
Bertram Stevenson   2 nurse child

Marriage Banns on 11th, 18th & 25 Oct 1857 St Thomas Brampton Derbyshire
John PORTER & Charlotte SLATER

Charlotte Slater and Elizabeth Wilson nee Slater are sisters , they are together on 1851 census with mother their Hannah SLATER and other siblings  Piece: 2147; Folio: 638; Page: 21

There is also a marriage for

Sarah Ann SLATER age on 19 Jun 1888 Matlock Spouse Joseph Prince
NO father named, witnesses is John PORTER & Hannah WILSON


   

[briann1]

Thank you Ladyhawk last night I mistakingly thought Charlotte Porter in the 1881 census was nee Wilson and wasted a bit of time looking for her, but about 1/2 hour ago I found she was nee Slater which was Elizabeth’s Sister. I now think I have the full picture up to the marriage of John Thomas Wilson and Margaret Frances Wilson in Tynemouth 1915. The Tynemouth 1939 registers are a bit of a mystery John Thomas wife Margaret Frances children John Thomas, Violet, Margaret, Rose and Enoch dont seem to be together obviously young JT and Margaret could have married and moved on but the others are still children
 My friend is trying to get some info from his elderly aunt

[osprey]

the children may be redacted on the 1939 register. Which site are you using to find the family?

There is only 1 Margaret F Wilson in Tynemouth and she is at the same address as John born 16 Aug 1891.

[Ladyhawk]

I now think I have the full picture up to the marriage of John Thomas Wilson and Margaret Frances Wilson in Tynemouth 1915.

The Tynemouth 1939 registers are a bit of a mystery

You may find that some records are hidden or redacted, which is to protect the privacy of people who are still alive. While the records will be opened gradually over time, you can also contact The National Archives to request a record be closed, or opened if you believe the person to be deceased.

I’m sending you a PM as I think one of the children mentioned may have married 1940 so you can take a look and see what you think