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Re: Question about probate wording of "body was found"
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 20 March 21 17:43 GMT (UK) »
I have one death certificate where he was "found to be dead". It was 'recent' as far as the tree goes, and someone who was alive at the time said she couldn't recall that anything was suspicious about the death itself, just that it would seem nobody could confirm which day it actually happened.

A vague date is more unusual to find than a vague cause of death... got more than a few of those!

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Re: Question about probate wording of "body was found"
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 20 March 21 17:45 GMT (UK) »
It might be worth putting her name into the CWGC search as that shows Civilian deaths
https://www.cwgc.org/find-records/find-war-dead/
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Re: Question about probate wording of "body was found"
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 20 March 21 18:18 GMT (UK) »
I have one death certificate where he was "found to be dead". It was 'recent' as far as the tree goes, and someone who was alive at the time said she couldn't recall that anything was suspicious about the death itself, just that it would seem nobody could confirm which day it actually happened.

A vague date is more unusual to find than a vague cause of death... got more than a few of those!

Thanks, that's interesting! I think it's likely to be that nobody could confirm what day it actually happened as she was a widow and lived alone. I've ordered her death certificate to hopefully find out.

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Re: Question about probate wording of "body was found"
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 20 March 21 18:21 GMT (UK) »
It might be worth putting her name into the CWGC search as that shows Civilian deaths
https://www.cwgc.org/find-records/find-war-dead/

Thank you, I had no idea such a register existed. I searched for her name but there were no matching records. I also found a blog that listed the WW2 bombings in the town where she lived. Fortunately, there wasn't a date in the month of her death.


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Re: Question about probate wording of "body was found"
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 20 March 21 18:23 GMT (UK) »
A more modern certificate in my possession reads "On or about Nineteenth January 2004"

Same sort of reasons (uncertainty) but different form of wording...

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Re: Question about probate wording of "body was found"
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 20 March 21 18:26 GMT (UK) »
Without knowing for sure, it might imply that she died somewhere outside her own home. Possibly even her own garden. 

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Re: Question about probate wording of "body was found"
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 21 March 21 11:37 GMT (UK) »
" deceased found on ......" is just the standard wording to use when there is uncertainty about the actual date of death.

So she was know to be alive on the first date and found dead on the second....

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Re: Question about probate wording of "body was found"
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 21 March 21 12:27 GMT (UK) »
I am more surprised when I see an exact time of death.

My brother Frank is shown to have died on 2007 March First, 2220 hours, why am I surprised, his body was not found until a few days after his death when concerned neighbours had not seen him out and about, and informed the police who got a locksmith to open the house for them. It was assumed he had died after a hot bath and was found sitting on a chair in the living room, I would have thought the bath, the temperature in a room with a coal fire and the room being without heating after that day (Scotland in spring) would have made time of death very difficult to calculate.
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Re: Question about probate wording of "body was found"
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 21 March 21 13:20 GMT (UK) »
" deceased found on ......" is just the standard wording to use when there is uncertainty about the actual date of death.

So she was know to be alive on the first date and found dead on the second....

Thank you.