Joe Millens

[Top-of-the-hill]

  I can't find a birth for Naomie either. A very elusive family!

[cath151]

I wonder if this could be Patience's family, possibility only of course. Thought they might be with a community of travellers but appear to be on their own.

Harris family, general hawkers living in two caravans Thetford.
1911
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7R7-Y19

Joe is being really hard to find!

Cathy

[Top-of-the-hill]

  That looks good, her age is about right. Still can't find a birth record - I suspect there isn't one.

[CaroleW]

I have asked the moderator to move your post to the Travelling People board as there may be people with more knowledge of the family etc

You say Naomi was his daughter from a previous marriage but he was single in 1939.  Like George - she may have been born under another surname

[cath151]

Found a newspaper article about the "Funeral at Cranbook of Mrs C Roberts" there is a lengthy list os mourners including Patience, Joe and lots of Harris's. Also a Naomi.
Available Findmypast or...
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/search/results?basicsearch=%22funeral%20at%20cranbrook%22&phrasesearch=funeral%20at%20cranbrook&retrievecountrycounts=false&sortorder=score&newspapertitle=sevenoaks%2Bchronicle%2Band%2Bkentish%2Badvertiser&page=0
If you register I think you can get three pages free.

Cathy

[softly softly]

I wonder if this could be Patience's family, possibility only of course. Thought they might be with a community of travellers but appear to be on their own.

Harris family, general hawkers living in two caravans Thetford.
1911
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7R7-Y19

Joe is being really hard to find!

Cathy

If this is Patience's family then the following are probably 3 birth registrations of Patience siblings.

Dolphus,

HARRIS, ADOLPHUS       HORNE 
GRO Reference: 1907  S Quarter in HOO  Volume 02A  Page 722 (may have said Hove on census and been mistranscribed but both in Kent.

Lovey,

HARRIS, LAVINIA       HORNE 
GRO Reference: 1905  M Quarter in IPSWICH  Volume 04A  Page 1054 as per census

Emma

HARRIS, EMMA       HORN 
GRO Reference: 1910  M Quarter in BRAINTREE  Volume 04A  Page 815 as per census


John

[softly softly]

Possible 4 more birth's ??

GRAY, ELIJAH       HORNE
GRO Reference: 1899  M Quarter in WOODBRIDGE  Volume 04A  Page 982
 
GRAY, URIAH       HORN
GRO Reference: 1896  D Quarter in BOSMERE  Volume 04A  Page 883

GRAY, ALGER       HORN
GRO Reference: 1903  J Quarter in NEWMARKET  Volume 03B  Page 477

GRAY, CONSTANCE       HORN 
GRO Reference: 1892  M Quarter in COLCHESTER  Volume 04A  Page 615

John

[softly softly]

Wondering if Patience is really Louisa Alice as below.

GRAY, LOUISA  ALICE     HORNE 
GRO Reference: 1901  D Quarter in BRAINTREE  Volume 04A  Page 857

It appears that children after Alger have surname Harris and from Uriah down to Louisa Alice with surname Gray.

Struggling with Hulia, Elias and Jenby at present. Cannot find any marriages for Horn/e-Gray or Horn/e/Harris or Harris/Gray that fit.

John

[softly softly]

Was  Elias Harris previously Elias Gray?

1901 census
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X94W-4FX

John