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Lloyd John, born 1894 Penrhyn
« on: Monday 05 April 21 10:24 BST (UK) »
Looking for any info. On the above, who lived at Llechwedd du Mawr.

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Re: Lloyd John, born 1894 Penrhyn
« Reply #1 on: Monday 05 April 21 10:42 BST (UK) »
To prevent duplication of  efforts - what research have you already done yourself?

Have you found him on census records?  www.familysearch.org
Who did he marry & when?  www.freebmd.org.uk
Who were his parents

There is no Lloyd John birth 1893-1895 so do you mean John Lloyd?
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Re: Lloyd John, born 1894 Penrhyn
« Reply #2 on: Monday 05 April 21 12:11 BST (UK) »
Hi Carol yes John Lloyd. I have looked on the 1939 census, other than this I cannot seem to find any info. It looks like his father died young and maybe the family split up?

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Re: Lloyd John, born 1894 Penrhyn
« Reply #3 on: Monday 05 April 21 12:34 BST (UK) »
Perhaps you would like to give us the details you found for him and others in the property on the 1939 register (including address)
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Re: Lloyd John, born 1894 Penrhyn
« Reply #4 on: Monday 05 April 21 15:26 BST (UK) »
date of birth given on 1939 was 18 Nov 1894. There's a school admission record for Penrhyndeudraeth Board School in 1903 for a John Lloyd born 18 Nov 1894, parent Ellis of Hengaewan, Minffordd. He left March 6 1908 to go to Talsarnau.

1911 at Llechwedd Du Mawr
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7JD-4TV
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Lloyd John, born 1894 Penrhyn
« Reply #5 on: Monday 05 April 21 15:34 BST (UK) »
1901 at Hengaean, John enumerated as nephew to same couple

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X913-Q4V
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Lloyd John, born 1894 Penrhyn
« Reply #6 on: Monday 05 April 21 16:17 BST (UK) »
possible birth reg John Lloyd dec qtr 1894 Ffestioniog vol 11b pg 340 mmn Jones

Possible for Ellis Lloyd in 1901

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X913-9WZ

marriage reg Ellis Lloyd dec qtr 1894 Ffestiniog vol 11b pg 723 with Mary Jones on the same page

1911 census widowed Mary living with her brother Griffith
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7JD-DK4

1871 census for Griffith, Mary & Gwen
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V55M-M9Y

Death reg Ellis Lloyd 27 sept qtr 1903 Ffestiniog vol 11b pg 243

report of the funeral giving father of Ellis as Evan
https://newspapers.library.wales/view/3319966/3319971/36/

1881 census
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2WS-6YRW
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Lloyd John, born 1894 Penrhyn
« Reply #7 on: Monday 05 April 21 21:36 BST (UK) »
Thankyou so much! This is amazing . It proves what I suspected , which was that John’s father must have died in a coal mining accident. Do you know how I might find out more about the accident?

Kind regards and thankyou so much.


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Re: Lloyd John, born 1894 Penrhyn
« Reply #8 on: Monday 05 April 21 21:50 BST (UK) »
On the newspaper it says Oddfellows and Druids came to pay their respects, can I ask if anyone knows who they are ?